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My gripe here is that google is focused more on punishing a website trying to manipulate its SERP's than providing accurate search results to the end user.
[edited by: tedster at 5:23 pm (utc) on Sep 11, 2012]
My gripe here is that google is focused more on punishing a website trying to manipulate its SERP's than providing accurate search results to the end user.Brinked, this is so true! Google's got into the "the whole world is against us" mode and with each successive algo/animal update it gets itself deeper in it still. They probably have this rosy idea that if only they could clean all the spam from their index, their results will be perfect. But from what I can see they are nowhere near being clean and the results are getting worse and worse because they spend all their resources (computing and human) on combating spam, or perceived spam and nothing much is being done towards improving relevancy. I mean, I do still use Google myself and you can call their results useful, far-reaching, diverse [insert a few more good words here] but they are definitely no more relevant to the query than they were in 2000. Not much of a progress toward organizing the world's information.
His website offers the most competitive prices than any other siteIf this is true why hasn't he reached out to the shopping deals/coupon site. The shopping deal websites have large communities that are always hunting for great deals and once they find it they normally link to it in their forums. These forums pass link power but more importantly can directly drive large volumes of traffic that converts making his less dependent on Google rankings.
He offers products that nobody else sells
Each product has its own descriptionI'd be interested to hear more about these descriptions. How long are they. What percentage of a product page is unique? If you have a 100kb product page and it only has 1kb of unique data, you have a problem. Also how is he checking to make sure he is using the same terminology that his users are typing into Google. Has he explored user generated content to boost up the amount of unique content on product pages & even if the UGC isn't good enough to publish it helps to show what keyword combinations visitors use to describe the product.
His youtube videos are embedded onto 2 competitors websitesWhy not handle the videos himself so other people can't embed them? If his videos are on multiple sites then why should Google rank his site higher, since all the sites offer the same video content. I understand he made the videos but from a user experience POV, his website does not offer a better user experience if he allows his video content to be duplicated on other sites
All because he paid $60 to a seo companyNegative SEO does exist but $60 negative SEO I am not so sure. Does he not have many legitimate links (like blogger reviews, newspaper interviews, vendors & partners, or contests & promotions).
The more link wheel links we remove, the more it recovers.How can it recover when Penguin hasn't been updated in months?
Because this is an algorithmic change, Google has no plans to make manual exceptions. Webmasters cannot ask for reconsideration of their site, but we’re happy to hear feedback about the change on our webmaster forum.
[edited by: bobsc at 6:19 pm (utc) on Sep 11, 2012]
Really, get good links for him. I saw sites losing google traffic from penguin where we simply got some good links and they make a comeback.
It is still easy to ranking #1 in Google if you are the only website mentioning a keyword. I am guessing no one else sells it but they mention it which is why he isn't ranking for these unique products.
a lot of chatter about that very exact thing
The purpose of this post was simply to point out that some penalties/algorithm adjustments are just so uncalled for. I really do not think it is fair to punish a quality site so hard that they can not be found and they really should be. Google is trying to make a strong statement but prioritizing penalties over returning relevant results to the end user is not a good strategy in my opinion.I agree 100%.
It might behoove us to try and get more press on Google's habit of penalizing sites.
[edited by: tedster at 7:38 pm (utc) on Sep 12, 2012]