Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.196.232.162

Message Too Old, No Replies

Google News XML Sitemap usage

     
8:33 am on May 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:June 11, 2010
posts:46
votes: 0


Is there any easy way to find out what XML sitemap Google is using to return entries in Google news? The XML file I thought it was using states:

X Submitted
0 indexed

So, to conclude:

- Is there a way to find out what XML sitemap is being used?
- Do you have to submit a new request informing Google of the preferred XML sitemap?
2:00 am on May 8, 2012 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


The answer should be right there in your Webmaster Tools account - honestly!
3:18 am on May 8, 2012 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 12, 2004
posts:608
votes: 1


[support.google.com...]

Once you submit a news sitemap, it shows 'News' as content type.
1:59 pm on May 8, 2012 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:June 11, 2010
posts:46
votes: 0


Thanks for the response chaps.

Tedster. The issue is that the stories are appearing in Google News, but not using the only news XML sitemap provided. So I will have the following title:

Blue widgets for sale at Red Storage place

But the title will show up as:

Widgets by Red

So I'm assuming Google is grabbing the information from elsewhere. Only question is, where?

GWT does not return the actual sitemap that is being used, which is why it is confusing.
1:27 am on May 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 12, 2004
posts:608
votes: 1


Google uses both news sitemap and Googlebot to find new articles. AFAIK they extract the title from the article. I would check if the h1 is too short and Google is picking up the next header. You may also try Article schema [schema.org...] to markup your page.
12:34 pm on May 9, 2012 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:June 11, 2010
posts:46
votes: 0


Thanks Levo. I actually think an XML sitemap was never submitted in the first place!
1:31 pm on June 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:June 11, 2010
posts:46
votes: 0


Hello all. Just an update on this. Google is still crawling the website and returning the <h1> or opening paragraph as the title in Google News. The news sitemap that I uploaded has '226 URLs submitted' with '0 indexed' - indicating it is not using the relevant sitemap.

I've submitted this through their change request for Google news and the response was typical Google (i.e. verify it in GWT and it will be fine) - its been a month and there hasn't been any movement on this.

Any tips? Experiences? Or suggestions from members? Let me know if you don't understand the problem and I will try and drill down on some examples.
4:00 pm on June 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 12, 2004
posts:608
votes: 1


Mine says "-" for indexed. As long as articles are making to Google News, I wouldn't worry about it.
11:11 pm on June 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


I've seen examples of sites where WMT says the Sitemap URLs aren't being indexed at all - but the evidence is obvious that it is.
8:03 am on June 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:June 11, 2010
posts:46
votes: 0


Thats guys.

Levo - I'd prefer Google to return the title tag as opposed to the <h1> tag that might not always contain the person's name I'm targeting (long story as to why the name isn't in there). So I think the sitemap will enhance the overall user experience by giving more information about the story in question.

Tedster - Yes, I thought it was odd. But I can only conclude that it means that its not indexed from the sitemap?

I was thinking of placing a thread in the Google product forums to see if I could get an answer on this.
9:11 am on June 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member lucy24 is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Apr 9, 2011
posts:12704
votes: 244


But I can only conclude that it means that its not indexed from the sitemap?

Something like that. Or: everything was indexed before you ever submitted a sitemap, and they haven't got around to cross-checking whether the URLs on your sitemap correspond to the URLs they have indexed.

This is only one of several things in WMT that is really not about your site at all; it's purely about, well, WMT itself.
9:23 am on June 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Administrator

WebmasterWorld Administrator phranque is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Aug 10, 2004
posts:10542
votes: 8


are you specifying the correct xml schema for news-specific elements?

have you checked all the Google News Sitemaps documentation?:
http://support.google.com/news/publisher/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=2527688&rd=1 [support.google.com]

is your sitemap validating?

have you checked that you are meeting all the Google News Technical requirements?:
http://support.google.com/news/publisher/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2481358 [support.google.com]
12:52 pm on June 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


Right lucy - sometimes WMT clearly shows its colors as "just a reporting tool". By that I mean it's tapping into a secondary data source or copy of Google's core ranking data. And that being the case, sometimes stuff just happens.