Issue with description

[member22]

I had an issue with my description ( that I managed to fix ) but I was wondering if anyone had experience the same thing as me.

My title was saying green widget and about 70 % of my anchor text was saying green widget and as everything was matching the description I wrote appeared correctly.

Then I tried to change the title to blue widget but with 80 % of my external links were saying green widget google refused to put my description because it didn't have the word blue widget in it and didn't match my major anchor text so it went and look on my webpage for the word blue...

Has anyone experienced this ?

Following all this and after many test I realized that the only solution to have the description I had written appear was to put green widget in my title in addition to blue even though I would rather write blue only.

The issue I have now is that the page of my website that I am trying to rank for the keyword green widget ( which is different that the page that currently has green widget and blue widget in the title ) doesn't appear anymore and doesn't rank anymore.. ( when it used to )

I would like to fix that issue, anybody knows how I could do that ?

[seoskunk]

I have experienced something similar with title tag

[Planet13]

Following all this and after many test I realized that the only solution to have the description I had written appear was to put green widget in my title in addition to blue even though I would rather write blue only.

when you say "description" do you mean the meta description, or are you talking about a text description that appears on the page?

[member22]

yes I am taking about the meta description.

[realmaverick]

How do you know google is refusing to use your new meta description?

I'm quite sure it may just be a matter of time.

It sounds a little concerning though, that you're changing the theme of a page. Could you not just create a page about blue widgets?

[member22]

I know because I tried and google went to look for the word green widget in the page. I would need to add the word green widget it in the meta description for google to take my meta desc but don't want to do that because this is not the keyword I am targeting on the page anymore.

yes I am changing the theme of the page and yes I created a specific page about blue widget but because my page with green widget is more popular google doesn't even take into account my blue widget page for ranking...

let's say my webpage about green widget is www.greenwidget.com and my webpage about blue widget is www.greenwidget.com/bluewidget.html.

I tried to rank www.greenwidget.com/bluewidget.html for the word blue widget but because I have in the meta title of www.greenwidget.com a title that says Green widget - Blue google doesn't even consider ranking www.greenwidget.com/bluewidget.html ( I don't see it ranking anywhere for blue widget. The only one that ranks for blue widget is www.greenwidget.com because it is more popular. The reason i also had to write blue widget in the meta title is because otherwise google doesn't take the meta description I wrote and want it to have.

I would like to change that but haven't figured out how to do it...

I would like www.greenwidget.com to rank for green widget but without having to leave in the meta title the word blue in order for it to write the meta description I want it to write ( and not go take snippets of my page )

I don't want www.greenwidget.com to rank for blue anymore I want www.greenwidget.com/bluewidget.html to rank on blue and not have www.greenwidget.com take over the ranking of blue and green.

If anyone has a clue on how to do it I am open to any suggestions.

[realmaverick]

Google needs to know which page to rank for blue widgets.

By doing what you've done, you'll confuse Google further and will struggle to get your new blue widgets page, to rank. Because you've now made an older page, with more authority about blue widgets. Which could lead to duplicate content.

All you had to do, was create the new page, build links to it and if green widgets was ranking for the term blue widgets, add a link on the green widgets page, to the blue widgets page.

It may take time but with SEO you need patience and you need to be sure your methods are proper.

[edited by: realmaverick at 1:54 pm (utc) on Mar 13, 2012]

[member22]

Because you've not made an older page, with more authority about blue widgets. Which could lead to duplicate content.

I am not sure what you mean by duplicate content here ? the pages are different and optimized for different keywords. One page is optimized for green widget the other one for green widget blue... but www.greenwidgets.com ranks for blue because it is very strong and only blue in the title can make it rank but that is the only reason.

Could you explain your reasoning there ?

I understand that google can be confused in which page to rank but what I don't understand is why my
www.greenwidget.com/bluewidget doesn't rank at all for blue widget ( for sure it doesn't have any links ).

When I removed the word blue of the meta title on my www.greenwidget.com page it was ranking and since i added the word blue again in www.greenwidget.com it disappeared from the ranking...

How can such a small change make my www.greenwidget.com/bluewidget.html disappear from the ranking for the keyword blue widget.

[realmaverick]

Was supposed to say because you've *now*

It's not 100% clear what you've done. But stop trying to make green widgets rank for blue widgets. It doesn't appear to be a related term.

Focus on getting your new blue widgets page to rank.

Small changes can have a big impact. Especially in niches where there is little competition.

Build links to blue widgets both internally and externally. Don't go crazy and keep the anchor text varied.

[member22]

Thank you,