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From what I've read, Panda is an attempt to deal with "content farms".
Don't think long term if you want traffic from Google - think what you need to do to get it.
No one should worry about "pleasing" Google, but at some point you have to get on the information super "highway" in some manner or another if you want to actually grow your business in today's modern times. Offline marketing methods today almost always have their root in ONLINE lead gen/ONLINE traffic generation of some kind. And Google is essentially "ONLINE" to most people/CONSUMERS now. They are the Internet for the majority of folks around the world for the next few years, at least. Bing is building "bridges" sure...
Google represents the freeways, everything else is sidestreets and little trails (that you can grow yourself with hardwork, but most people still use the freeways to get where they're going faster, no matter what type of "brand" "loyalty" you have. Plus, ever hear of sidestreets and whole neighborhoods getting taken out to make way for new freeway growth? Yea, same thing happens online). So, when the freeway is already "telling" you that you don't have a realistic shot at getting where you want to go with your available resources, as you are ENTERING...how is that useful long-term to ANYONE but Google? How does that inspire quality content representing a unique, creative angle? I just get sick of G saying it is/and should be for "the users" all of the time. That is what irks me. Nothing will ever be perfect, but IMO they could have/would have done things a bit differently if they were truly concerned about getting rid of the relative "BEST" content across many top niches from small-medium-sized operations/publishers online.
The bear should be approaching soon...
So if your XYZ.com got hit for "blue widgets" then chances are you will not get that spot back, HOWEVEVER!and let me repeat that again HOWEVER there is a way to get back that same position again BUY A NEW DOMAIN and START A NEW SITE on the same topic and build some links. You will be amazed how fast that site will rank.