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Brandspam - Google's new challenge?

         

superclown2

8:14 am on Jul 27, 2011 (gmt 0)



We all have our different views on the value of Google's search results after Panda. What is undeniable is that a lot of rubbishy spam sites have disappeared out of the listings which is very welcome - but many commercial key phrases are now dominated by big brands that have taken the opportunity to move into niches that they have never been in before, and which they have little obvious expertise in. Their thin pages (usually affiliate pages, which often appear higher in the SERPs than the sites of the merchants whose products they are promoting) can offer little or nothing extra to searchers, and degrade the search experience.

The idea of promoting sites which are more trustworthy is, on the face of it, a logical move; but it is one that is now being abused by many brand sites. Should Google counter this? Or is it a trend which should be encouraged, in order to improve websites generally by making us all more professional and competitive, whilst squeezing out those that cannot adapt?

netmeg

7:17 pm on Jul 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Most people prefer to purchase from a brand. Fact of life. Amazon and Wal-Mart don't make their money out of thin air. That's why one works to become a brand. In such a scenario as you propose, there would be no incentive to try harder. I for one would never want to see such.

londrum

7:50 pm on Jul 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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yeah, this was probably inevitable. all the other search engines will probably follow suit eventually.
google is in the business of giving users what they want. if they want brands then that's what they will give them.

but why do they have to boost the "brands" when the user isn't buying anything?

with a site like amazon i can understand it. user's will probably trust their money to amazon over a little bookstore that they've never heard of. but if they are just searching for information, what good does a "brand" do?
is information any more trusted if it comes from eHow or Wikipedia over a university paper? A lot of people would say that the opposite is true.

smithaa02

8:29 pm on Jul 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Don't know if this necessarily a branding issue, but rather a google preference for big corporate websites (like Wal-mart, Amazon.com, etc...)

It definitely is a factor now... For all sorts of searches I do, I'm now seeing them dominated by big corporations even though frequently they aren't the most relevant as far as results go. Sad really, as there used to be a more democratic/equal playing field for small independents where they actually had a chance to compete against the big fish.

I'm guessing this is an unintended side effect of the spring updates. To cut down on farm sites, google is probably rewarding site age, domain age, page count (granted thin pages are probably not counted), stable long lasting content, backlinks from other 'institutional like sites' and other factors that corporate sites tend to have.

Planet13

9:45 pm on Jul 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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...backlinks from other 'institutional like sites'...


Agreed.

And the age of the backlinks seems to have quite an effect, too.

CatLady

11:18 pm on Jul 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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The furniture industry has a lot of big brands dominating the top spots in the SERPs well.

Shatner

12:20 am on Jul 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Here's a good example of this that I've seen, and have detailed before.

BigBrandX.com dominates and is well respected authority in Blue Wdigets.

BigBrandX.com has now started carrying "excerpt" feeds from other non-brand sites in the area of "green widgets" and area it isn't as known for. These feeds basically just display a paragraph of content from a competitor site on one of their pages, with a link back to that site. These "excerpt" pages aren't advertised on BigBrandX.com anywhere obvious, in fact just about the only way you can even find them is with a Google Search. This is because they know the pages have no real value, and would not interest their readers since they are thin content which is scraped from other sites.

However, because BigBrandX.com is a big brand and the sites they're taking these feeds from are not, Google searching for "green widgets" now brings you to BigBrandX's scraped feed pages on "green widgets" instead of the smaller sites which are actually experts on "green widgets".

minnapple

12:33 am on Jul 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I see Sears.com as a good example of this.

Marketing Guy

8:18 am on Jul 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Interesting discussion, given the news about Google Hotel finder today - [webmasterworld.com...]

Maybe brand preference in the SERPs was a sweetener to keep all the juicy big brand PPC budgets in play while Google makes a move for different verticals. :)

Smells like BSkyB's bribe to shareholders to keep James Murdoch on as Chairman to me! [bbc.co.uk...]
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