Can't Get 2 of my Pages to Rank in Google

[hermosa]

I have always understood that Google doesn't appreciate:

- keyword stuffing
- purchasing links
- extensive cross linking from related sites

Yet 3 - 4 of my competitors who are engaging in these practices are dominating the SERPS. They are actually buying other domains and linking from them to their main sites.

At one point, I tought alt tags were the problem so I removed them and reduced my keyword density. The pages in question reached page 3. Now they have vanished from the top 100. Perhaps I am missing something and it would be great to have some feedback and input as to what is going wrong.

I'm not getting nearly as many inquiries from the website as I used to.

[tedster]

I wish I had something solid to offer. I too have been seeing questionable methods apparently working more in recent times. All I can say to myself during stretches like this is "it won't last",

[supercyberbob]

Wow what. 3rd thread in a row I've read here with a legitimate complaint about the Google serps.

That's all I got, eating popcorn.

[EvilSaint]

I wish I had something solid to offer.

Rarely have I seen tedster without any pearl of wisdom on offer...

Google needs to go back to the drawing board and look at the Panda 2.0 update with more scrutiny as it seems legit sites/pages have been hard done by...

[hermosa]

I agree. Any chance that GoogleGuy can pop by to adress this.

[HuskyPup]

GoogleGuy?

Not posted here since July 24, 2008 ... I very much doubt it after 3 years and 1 day!

[hermosa]

I wonder why he stopped posting. So no one from Google pops in anymore?

[Sgt_Kickaxe]

I think Matt Cutts mentioned somewhere that because WW doesn't allow the posting of links in the forums it's hard to get more than hearsay and unproven accounts of events. He suggested they be allowed to give people solid examples. He doesn't run WW but that might explain why Google avoids WW, if they do. I'm sure they read WW anyway.

I think Matt last posted in January of this year so Google is... around :-)

[hermosa]

So what's the solution? When you see competitors buying other domains and just using them to create artificial links to their main site and boost their traffic, there has got to be an answer.

[WillG]

With all the Panda updates the answer is to wait. If you try to duplicate what they are doing you might do yourself a injustice later.
My humble opinion.

[Planet13]

So what's the solution? When you see competitors buying other domains and just using them to create artificial links to their main site and boost their traffic, there has got to be an answer.

I think the answer might be to buy other domains and just use them to create artificial links to your main site...

[hermosa]

Isn't that spammy. Why is Google not clamping down on this?

[indyank]

With all the Panda updates the answer is to wait. If you try to duplicate what they are doing you might do yourself a injustice later.
My humble opinion.

WillG, that makes a lot of sense. I see a lot of pandemonium all around and couldn't believe that Google wouldn't be aware of it yet.

[tangor]

There's no solutions at the moment. Panda changed everything. Toe the straight and narrow (ie. white hat) for at least two months and see what happens. These things do seem to even out over time, but even that is not quite as sure as it once was. Meanwhile, take a look at Bing.

[hermosa]

Great tip. Just checked Bing and sites and blog are ranking really well. I'm still seeing one of the companies that is artificially boosting it's number of links at the top of the ranking # 1 & #2 but my sites and blogs are on pages 1 and 2.