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We've had these posts before and all that comes from it is that I appear arrogant and condescending. Shrug.For the record, I don't think you sound arrogant, as a know-it-all or as a troll.
The problem with Google, as I see it, is that it just does not have any innovative ideas because the kind of people it employs are not innovative. It is the same thing that happened to Microsoft - innovative founders who knew how to run a business followed by massive expansion and the hiring of what were academically the best graduates. People are innovative. Hire too many academic vegetables and it kills the meat of innovation.
Not going to happen - I'm not going to get panda'd Sorry, you don't want to hear it,but it's true. I built my site with an eye to being algo proof. I have diverse but relevant backlinks and strong content.Everyone gets whiney about that, but it's true. And it's working, which seems like it's great for me, but somehow some people seem to take as bad for them.
Five years ago in our niche, most of them were lucky to crack the third page, they weren't even in the game.
Haha. Saying you're algo-proof is just silly. You might not get Panda'd, but the writing is on the wall for future updates.
[edited by: MrSavage at 8:52 pm (utc) on Jul 14, 2011]
Google wasn't built on brand names showing up in the search results
There is a real difference and the question is whether Panda will ever distinguish the two.
But here's the bottom line: anyone in business anywhere is competing against "brands" or building a brand, right? Of course as the web matures the same pattern is most likely to emerge. It takes a lot to convince me to buy from a non-brand outlet, offline or online. That's the world.
A lot of people getting the pinch from Panda and realizing that their stories can't compete with professional writers, are going to find your niche.
But Google never said it was a good idea to do all that "creative" link building, for instance. So any business that depends on trying to evade Google's expressed purpose shouldn't be surprised that the temporary value starts to evaporate.
And the junk that's floating up to the top of some SERPs is also not a long term approach.
That's way too strong a statement for me, Rlilly. How can you back that up, especially given that Google hates to make manual changes at all.They used to tedster. Matt Cutts admitted that curating happens now quite a bit. They say because of spam and relevancy, but...as Google founders said, money does wonders:
Currently, the predominant business model for commercial search engines is advertising. The goals of the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users.
Vanessa Fox: Many people don't believe that there is a wall between the organic search people and everything else at Google... There is this protectiveness around organic search, which enables those engineers to focus on the search experience. They don't have to think about AdWords, they don't have to think about how Google is making money, or what the CPMs are. They don't have to think about any of those things and are able to concentrate on making the best search experience.
A Holostic Look At Panda with Vanessa Fox [stonetemple.com]
HubPages has seen a negative impact from this change, but so far YouTube has not (Search Metrics Winners). One presumes Google isn’t treating its own affiliated sites differently than any other site, but YouTube’s open publishing environment makes low-quality content as prevalent as on any other moderated open publishing platform. Google shows over 13 million indexed videos on YouTube for lose weight (known spammy area) and over 10 million for forex (another spammy area). Apparently, Google’s Panda update has been punitive only to platforms other than Google’s.
"Increase your site traffic with Adwords". (or become a brand overnight to survive or wait for that Panda recovery playbook)
Nobody at a large company with a 9-5 job is going to network with every player in the industry, call them all every six months and maybe beg for some links. [...]
Nobody at a large company is going to spend 2 weeks doing absolutely mindnumbing labor just to get a 1/2 dozen super quality links. If the companies large enough, they probably couldn't even initiate a task like that even if they wanted to. [...]
@Wheel but its highly suspected that there is manual intervention which helps the Brands. I think 100% they artificially push the big brands up.
Guts and instinct is not SEO but its my strong feeling they have manually increased the dial for top level brands.
Is Vanessa just backing up her old co-workers and lying, baldface? No way, as far as I'm concerned.