Internal linking methods and Wikipedia

[member22]

Hi,

I need an EXPERT help regarding ranking ( what I mean by expert is someone that has managed to rank a website 1 st on google for a money making keyword ) !

I have been trying to figure out the google algorithm like many of us on this forum for years...

My questions is how to rank on a highly competitive keyword and so far I have only found one website on the planet that has figured out how to do it and it is wikipedia... they rank on every keyword or almost ...

It seems that how they do it once they have the a strong domain is with internal links... ( I am 99 % sure of that ) .

How does the internal links process work , could someone explain me how to do those links ( I know for wikipedia it is automatic ). I know it is the secret sauce for google ! Once you have all the rest but I would need a good explanation from someone who has done it and figured it out on the way it work, how to create those links....

[tedster]

I know of several sites that tried to automate inline linking the way Wikipedia does... and it killed their rankings in every case.

Wikipedia has hundreds of millions of natural backlinks that they did not intentionally generate. Unless your website has that kind of strength, I would not recommend imitating their inline linking scheme.

[netmeg]

(If it were that easy, everyone would be doing it)

[wheel]

My take on wikipedia is very very general. Get real ulitimate fighting power by getting authority links to your site.

Then publish content on your site and link well internally. You'll rank every time for that content.

Wikipedia follows it up with external links to internal pages as well, but in many cases your internal links will be good enough. I can rank on a term on my main site just by publishing an article on the search term.

(to be more clear, I don't think wikipedia ranks primarily due to keyword density, anchor text, etc etc etc.)

That's it. It worked in 1980, it works today. You think wikipedia is ranking because of all the tweets it gets?

[Simsi]

I know of several sites that tried to automate inline linking the way Wikipedia does...... and it killed their rankings in every case.

I tried it on an exact-match keyphrase domain once. Picked up a 6 month -30 penalty on that specific keyphrase very soon after. You can never be 100% sure but too coincidental to be anything else IMO.

[deadsea]

I'm sure Google wants Wikipedia articles in the results quite often.

To that end, if Google rolls out algorithms that would hurt sites like Wikipedia, I'm sure Google adds Wikipedia to an exception list for that algorithm. (Google has said that they have such lists).

I believe that Wikipedia's success is mostly because of the manual review and special treatment that they get from Google.

[denisl]

Just trying to get this clear - is it being said here that any inline linking is risky, or just automating the process?

[member22]

Dead Sea,
Could you send the article that says that wikipedia has special treatement...

[member22]

I am not talking about make links automatic just talking about understand how internal linking works... because there is a technic to it I am sure.

[deadsea]

I don't have any specific article about Wikipedia's special treatment from Google.

Its just that Google has said that they engage in special treatment to white list sites against the effects of specific algorithms. Given that Wikipedia is so large and prominent, I would be very surprised if Google were not using this ability for Wikipedia. My guess is that there are a couple dozen algorithm factors that don't apply to Wikipedia.

[goodroi]

According to Yahoo Site Explorer, Wikipedia has over 291 million backlinks and over 141 million pages. Alexa says its the 7th most popular site in the world. I strongly suspect it also has a huge amount of direct type in traffic, facebook likes, twitter mentions etc.

Wikipedia is not like your average website and I would suggest you do not blindly imitate it.

As for inline linking (especially automated) based on my personal experience and confirmed by my friends, it is like plutonium. It can be incredibly powerful but it mostly leads to damaging explosions.