Question about passing page juice for header redirects and framesets

[smithaa02]

Say I have a site called mywidgets.com. This links to mywidgets.com/acmewidgets.php and this in turn right away redirects with a php header location redirect to acmewidgets.com.

Did acmewidgets.com get any of my page juice or are they out of luck because they went through a php redirect?

Say instead we have mywidgets.com/acmewidgets.php which is actually a frameset. Top frameset is our company's main menu, bottom frameset is acmewidgets.com. Does acmewidgets.com site still get our pagejuice because they came from an iframe?

What if we have both... mywidgets.com/acmewidgets.php has a frameset with out menu up top and our stat tracking page at the bottom...that then php redirects to acmewidgets.com...so it happens so fast the end user doesn't see our stat page and just see's a standard frameset. Any ideas on how much page juice gets lost here?

All in all, how does retaining page juice help a site in the SERP's? What if acmewidgets had a reciprocal links with out company site?

Any answers to these questions, would be appreciated!

[tedster]

No one I know has tested any of these situations recently enough to have any definitive answers.

It used to be the case that any frame or iframe src did NOT act like a link, and "juice" would only flow through an actual link. However, Google in recent years has made significant changes in how they flow PR and many of those changes were news to webmasters when Matt Cutts or another engineer would mention them.

If I had to guess, I'd say that every scenario you mentioned does give some kind of pop to the target URL on the external domain.

[Robert Charlton]

I'm assuming in this situation that you control both domains. If that's the case, what's the reason for having the different domains... and for framing the second one in the first?

[smithaa02]

Robert, while I do control the mothership 'mywidgets.com' I don't control the website acmewidgets.com (and others like it). I do have to link to them contractually but can be somewhat creative in how I compose the links (hence my original musings).