So it seems no one is recovering from panda. My question is: would it be better to make a new site? Anyone here has created a new site after 2/24 and seen it ranking, especially ranking over pandalized sites for the same queries? Or is it even harder to rank new sites now?
brunotorres, no one is recovering but it doesn't mean that no site has overcome what Panda went after.
Example: The week before 2/24 Google found 1000 bad pages and decides that your entire site be pandalized for them. Unless Google says re-calculate that site, you will stay pandalized even if you remove them. It maybe that Google has a set time penalty for Pandalized sites. But Google always gives confusing and contradicting info other than "build sites for users." Even then they will penalize you, a thin tag page may make a lot sense for users for example.
So don't let panda scare you. Really thin and not so useful sites have survived it and really good ones have been slammed.
But do you think the good ones, and the bad ones that were fixed are really gonna recover after some time? And new sites are gonna receive the same treatment even if they're built with great quality (even though there's no practical clear definition of what quality is for google) from the start?
I suggest going back to the basics. Envision the web without search engines. How would you get traffic? Where would you want to get it from? Reach out to those sites in person and build your credibility and product offering.
I'm also seeing some thin affiliate sites with poor layout & scrapped content(could be new sites) at favorable rank. What they have is a big giant H1 tag targeted on popular keywords at the top of their main pages.
I'm also seeing some thin affiliate sites with poor layout & scrapped content(could be new sites) at favorable rank.
Have you looked at their backlink profile? I am guessing lots of "networked" sites that they own with targeted keywords in the anchor text. Also I wouldn't be surprised if they have lots of other spammy backlinks on abandoned sites.
It does seem like post panda, a lot of the SEO tactics circa 1997 - 1999 are back in play.