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Google Panda recovery of a single page

         

JamesB

2:52 pm on Apr 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hello guys I have been following this forum religiously and have learnt so much about the Panda update that I thought I would register and share my story and also ask some specific Qs.

My website was a industry leading website for its niche:

1. Ranked number 1 for 95% of golden keywords in the industry.

2. Original articles written by industry experts

3. A public forum (VBulletin)

4. A Q and A style section published on a blog (Wordpress) where members of the public ask a Q and the appropriate industry expert answers it.

5. A business directory that had lots of pages structured as below:

domain.com/city.html - geo pages for business listings with featured listings and free listings and links to business profile pages

domain.com/profile/businessname.html - individual profile page with only business details and links to individual pages about the business owners on free listings.

domain.com/profile/businessname/businessowner.html - profile page for business owner with nothing more than name and address details. for some businesses there could be up to 12 owners.

Although a UK specific site we had business listings for other countries in the format

domain.com/country/profile/...

The "country" data was only bringing in searches for business names, telephone numbers and nothing more - the content on these sections were very thin.

6. The website had adsence above the fold on "free business directory profile pages" and also on the left hand column sitewide.

The site got hit at the second Panda update on 11th April and dropped about 60% traffic.

We read the forums and though as a plan of action this is what we need to do:

Noindex, follow - all wordpress tags and archive pages - we have 12K posts and 28K pages indexed on /blog - so we did this and now we wait!

Delete all thin blog posts and add this content as "comments" to similar posts and let the deleted posts just 404.

I am wondering if the deleted posts should 404 or 301 to /blog/ (which would be a quicker way to get them removed from the index?


Remove all non-UK business listing data that was essentially thin data pages.
Since the above followed a good directory structure we removed entire sections by requesting a directory removal in WMT.

Do you think it is a wise move to tell google exactly what you are doing in WMT or should have i just placed a noindex on those pages an let G works its way through the site that way?

We also took all the domain.com/city.html that were either thin on content or getting very low traffic and placed a noindex,follow on these pages.

For the higher traffic domain.com/city.html pages we wrote some unique content.

we have placed a noindex,follow on all free data listings with the following structure:
domain.com/profile/businessname.html
domain.com/profile/businessname/businessowner.html

There are approx 80K of pages like the above that have had this applied to them.

We are finding that Googlebot visit these page that have noindex on them and yet they remain indexed and im guessing its going to take a few attempts for this to sort itself out.

In the forum we noticed that all "member" profiles had been indexed and so we performed a WMT directory removal for forum/members/

We have removed all adsence from the site.

We are now waiting and we have noticed recovery of one keyword which was very competitive. After panda it dropped from #1 and #2 (double serp) to #4 (single result).

2 days ago the above result reversed itself and started ranking above a wikipedia entry as before.

This is the only page that has recovered and if this was a sitewide "penalty/algo change" then why would only 1 page recover unless the recovery is unrelated to the actions taken?

I am now just waiting to see what happens as google comes in and reindexed what way probably 80% of the site in terms of number of pages.

any help / discussion / advice would be appreciated.

James

indyank

5:46 pm on Apr 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



James, did you see any increase in traffic for the single page that recovered?

In my case there was a single page that did appear to have been restored (though not completely). But the traffic wasn't any different. I then went and checked analytics for the traffic to this page from the keyword for which it appeared to have recovered.There wasn't anything different for this keyword. In fact it did seem to have been within a range for most of the days.

I can only conclude that Google is running different results for different data centers. Google seem to have picked a few sites as part of Panda 1 and they are playing with their pages in different data centers.Those unaffected by panda are sites which have not been picked for this test.

But there was a single page recovery in another site hit by Panda 2.This site caters to a single country.I did notice this page on the same position as it was before panda 2 for an important keyword. Analytics also showed an increase in traffic for this page and it was through this keyword.

While the first site which was hit by panda 1 isn't showing anything better, the single page recovery for the site affected by panda 2 proved to be good.But as I said, this site targets a single country.

I had been doing a lot of changes to the site affected by panda 1 but nothing significant is happening to it.I am not sure what to conclude from this.

JamesB

12:36 pm on May 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hi Indyank the traffic has increased on that one page when i isloate traffic from Google organic but it is not quite where it previously was as this page was a popular page that was internally navigated to from other pages on the site and since those other pages havent recovered the traffic is not at its pre-panda level but its certainly at pre-panda (if traffic source = google organic).

I have also checked traffic for the keyword and this is up as well. My website targets the UK and has a .co.uk domain extension and so is similar to what you are seeing. I am still confused as to why only a single page recivery but i have many pages that need to be de-indexed and recrawled and its just a waiting game for me right now!

[edited by: JamesB at 12:43 pm (utc) on May 1, 2011]

JamesB

12:39 pm on May 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Today another keyword is dancing not as competitive as the page that has recovered but its pre-panda position was #2 and i have had reports from various people seeing it between #2 and #4. im hoping this is a positive sign or maybe its G doing a weekend dance. I will keep this thread updated with any further progress