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Adding many new pages to a website - brings penalization?

         

asabbia

6:11 pm on Apr 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Hi guys,

I am losing uniques since I opened a new section of my website.

I have added about 50.000 new pages, (before site:website showed about 10.000 pages)

I know that's a lot of increase (+500%) But I have a good pagerank and some of my competitors got many more pages (1-2mil)

I am going to lower them a bit, but do you know if this penalization will go away after the new pages will acquire some pagerank?

(note: european language)

Thanks a lot

crobb305

6:25 pm on Apr 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Are you in the UK? Maybe you're seeing Panda?

tedster

6:25 pm on Apr 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Your question is very close to another thread Adding a whole lot of new content - how safe is it? [webmasterworld.com], so you may want to follow that discussion, too.

I'd say it will depend on both the quality of the new content and the real PageRank or link equity of the website. Other individual factors may also come into play, such as the history of the site.

asabbia

7:20 pm on Apr 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

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@crobb: No, it's not UK

@ted: thanks a lot ted for your help, I will take a look there

crobb305

7:36 pm on Apr 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

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@crobb: No, it's not UK


Sorry, I remembered seeing you post on another thread and thought you were UK. Hope everything resolves for you.

goodroi

6:40 pm on Apr 2, 2011 (gmt 0)

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#1 - Has Google visited the 50,000 new pages?
#2 - Did Google add all the pages to the index?
#3 - Did you log into Google WMT to see if there are any messages or look at the reports?
#4 - What is the average amount of unique text for the 50,000 pages?
#5 - How did you interlink the new pages with your pre-existing pages?
#6 - Did you develop any deep links from external pages to your new content?
#7 - What is your toolbar pagerank your your homepage?

asabbia

8:44 pm on Apr 2, 2011 (gmt 0)

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#1 yes
#2 yes
#3 yes (0 reports)
#4 none of them have the same text
#5 I linked from old pages about 800-900 new pages (the other pages are linked from these 800-900)
#6 no
#7 pr 6

Sgt_Kickaxe

3:07 am on Apr 3, 2011 (gmt 0)



- You've definitely altered the internal link graph of your site.

- You've definitely changed the sites "keyword" graph.

- You've definitely lowered the sites "average number of incoming links per page" type statistics.

The remedy however is simple, time. Give Google at least a month to digest all of the changes before assuming something is wrong, preferably 3 months. It takes time for large scale changes to propagate fully. In the mean time keep an eye out for crawl errors an such in GWT.

asabbia

9:55 am on Apr 3, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Thanks a lot for help.

In teh meanwhile I deleted some pages (I think about 8'000-10'000)

well not deleted they now 301 redirects to their main category (one of those 800-900 pages I linked)

Let's see if google got this little back change

walkman

2:20 pm on Apr 3, 2011 (gmt 0)



asabbia,
#1 in my opinion is what Google thinks of these 50,000 pages. If google doesn't like them, your site will essentially be blacklisted and even your other content demoted. Removing pages is the fad now, so much so that even Matt Cutts posted about it today

asabbia

2:31 pm on Apr 3, 2011 (gmt 0)

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what a bad coincidence...

walkman

2:37 pm on Apr 3, 2011 (gmt 0)



asabbia,
I don't want to sound like I know anything, with panda most of us are just guessing, but Google has said that to many bad pages will hurt the site and Googlers have suggested removal of 'bad' pages. So take what we say with a grain of salt, it may work for you...or it may not.