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[edited by: tedster at 8:55 pm (utc) on Mar 13, 2011]
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can I republish the same topic in that area? (I'll do the subscription)
Last year, in March, I had some problems with the italians ISP, they blocked the access to my site with the "www". So, I did a simply redirect from the version www.URL.com to [URL.com....] Few days later, Google started jumping from the URL with "www" and without, but in the end, it penalized me.
Yes. The way it works is that everyone needs to make two contributions to other site reviews before their own request for a review goes live. The reviews are for all kinds of things - penalties, SEO, usability, design, crawling problems, etc.
Have you studied your backlink profile to see if someone else is setting you up to look like a spammer? Google says they only give penalties when they see a widespread pattern of abuse, but sometimes competitors do try to create those patterns for their competition.
We won't review your actual backlinks out here in the public area, but it is something that anyone should review regularly, especially if you are in a highly competitive market.
Have you asked Google for reconsideration?
Is it exactly -50 on every page?
This doesn't sound like a penalty to me ... It sounds like a chained redirect that caused loss of link weight and 50 positions down is where it settled ... I read your site is in the review forum now, so this post is as much for future readers to make sure they double and triple check redirects, because redirects = loss of inbound link weight ... Even a single redirect loses a bit of link weight.
So, I've understood that I should have done the subscription (payment) and then I could to post it.. that's incorrect, right?
Even the SEO Agency, told me that if it's an algorithmic penalty, they don't send quality rates to check.. is it true?
In the past, maybe 2 years ago, I've just done an english directories submission (an huge order), but it can't penalize I guess.
That depends on what those "directories" are. Some people call the top sites in their link farm pyramid scheme "a directory" when it's really just a spam attack. There are not a huge number of respectable directories. But in most cases, those links do get ignored. It really depends on what the other person did for you.
I know, backlinks are very very important. In my field, even in Italy, everyone buy links. There isn't a site without some links bought. But we buy only in quality italian sites, not spam!
I wouldn't think year old links would come back to bite someone like that, but I guess they could ... The minus 50 sounds like a penalty, but the situation and the timing of the redirects / drop in rankings sounds to me more like lost link weight than anything.
If the links were recently added, then I could see them being more of a 'not ignored' possibility, but I think MoneyHoney means they directory links are from 2 years ago and then a year later the rankings dropped?
I don't know ... Something sounds 'fishy' about the redirects, domain issues and inbound links losing weight through redirects to me ... I'd look really hard there, unless there's something really 'penalty worthy' not being mentioned.
Minus 50 even if links purchased from quality sites.
Clean them up, make sure the rest of the site is squeaky clean, then file a reconsideration request.
There's another possibility we haven't touched on. Maybe your site has been hacked and is now hosting parasite content that is cloaked so that only googlebot sees it. Have you checked for this?
So even if you fix the linking problem, you still might end up in the penalty box for as long as Google deems your site worthy of a penatly.