I was just looking at the serp for my product - and google just isnt worth even bothering with really now.
Youtube1 - Youtube 2
I cant seem to shift site x.
Site y is the same owner as site x
Site z is same owner as site x aswell
Ive been at site x's position and y position and traffic wasnt much better than where I am now - maybe 35 clicks a day rather than 20 or 30.
The point is though - with a spamming monkey like the one who owns xyz with all his spammed forum member profile links and other spam junk - i really cant compete for the top spot - and with all the google bum fluff round aswell - I ask myself is google even worth bothering with?
I must admit I do laugh - the spammer has had his paypal account suspended (yet again) so people cant even purchase there at sites xyz now anyway.
So ever so smart google ranks a spammer / fluffs all its own stuff out there and kills the rest.
(I suppose if google were that smart they would drop sites which linked to paypal and then paypal just showed a page saying "this guys been suspended and cant recieve money). Or maybe they like spammers who cant take payments? LOL - it maybe benefits them.
Is google worth it so much these days for your terms?
(organic that is)
Mind you again though - if I spam the forum profiles with my link aswell I might have a chance.
I get the feeling im messing round chasing my tail rather than being an online trader.