Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 126.96.36.199
If this is the first time you were hit hard, then welcome to Google.
[edited by: tedster at 11:14 pm (utc) on Jun 2, 2010]
Why ever not.
Do they use the 'type of site' model I'm referring to for generating the results?
Some people want information, most want to buy, quite a few want comparisons... Figure out the percentages, put the top sites from each 'style' on the first page and create a bunch of happy searchers who can find what they're looking for
Google has as long as I can remember had its monthly algo changes and hang the consequences.
I'm getting a bit angered by all this talk about "free" traffic.
Really, it just seems a bit selfish to me for people to complain about Google not sending traffic to your site any more when someone else takes your place, because chance are those people worked as hard on their site(s) and getting it to rank as you did and to discount their efforts to do the same thing you're trying to do seems a bit narrow to me.
[edited by: trakkerguy at 7:30 pm (utc) on Jun 3, 2010]
My main site is for a manufacturer and online seller of widgets. There are 3 other such sites (older and bigger). Up to 9 months ago, my site was always top 3 for the main keyword the defines that niche. Then my site down to 6-7 and began rotating places with the other 4 mfgs sites.
It is a very defined placement. Only one of the mfg/retailer sites was allowed in the 6-7 spot, with the other 3 grouped somewhere on the second page. All other top 10 spots were wiki and an authority info site (good), ezine and other article sites (spam). Occasionally, the winner of the #6-7 spot would rotate between the 4 mfg/retailers, and the other 3 would stay grouped together on the second page, but we never see more than one of the mfg/retailers on the first page.
I wonder if you will have the same attitude if G drops your old authority site to the third page for most of your main keyphrases and puts wiki and 9 such spammy pages in its place?
"It is my contention that it's not a fair shake when they use our content as their reason-for-being, then direct visitors to THEIR income source. Obviously some people here don't mind that, but I find it unsettling."
Any webmaster here does understand how robots.txt works. If you think the deal isn't working out for you, you can completely bow out of Google with just two short lines of code.
they've got us over a barrel.
everyone says that, but we all know it isn't true
[edited by: TheMadScientist at 9:26 pm (utc) on Jun 3, 2010]
[edited by: cien at 10:15 pm (utc) on Jun 3, 2010]
when google supplies the vast majority of our traffic we can't just dump it
"The issue I would think is, can a new baby propagate like G did, with just word of mouth promotion."
a legal requirement to pursue profit
I still think that Google as market leader is much better (and more "ethical") than what we would have if Microsoft had been the first big winner in the search competition.