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After 9 years Google drops site

         

backdraft7

4:09 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I have a clean site that has ranked #1 through thick & thin and 9 years of algo updates. Now today my home page is GONE! I run a blog which had about 115 dup descriptions & 29 dup tiles which I just fixed. These were listed under the HTML "suggestions", so I never figured the not following those suggestions would get me banned.

I have multiple PC's in the house, and some show that I'm gone, while others say I'm there... the site: command is showing different results on different PC's.

What's going on with Google? anyone else seeing this?

tedster

4:41 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Hello backdraft and welcome to the forums.

...had about 115 dup descriptions & 29 dup tiles which I just fixed. These were listed under the HTML "suggestions", so I never figured the not following those suggestions would get me banned.


And you were right - they won't. When you run the site: operator, does your home page still show up at the top? and when you search on your domain name - do you see your home page at the topnof the results?

backdraft7

4:52 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Thank you tedster!

This is where it's really wacky...I have about 6 PC's in my office, using tracert, the one data center where I appear to be gone is 72.14.204.103 - but on the same desk, the tracert returns 72.14.204.147 and I'm still #1 there.

So, if I run the site: operator on the first IP (using my main domain), I'm gone (home page only, other pages do appear), but on the second I'm #1. Weird. The cache time on the first IP for other sites is March 4. The cache for the second IP is Feb 23. So it looks like I'm being booted.


I am hoping this is a temporary condition. Otherwise I'm kaput!

backdraft7

4:59 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Oh, and I am getting different results between using IE or FF.

TheMadScientist

5:13 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Out of curiosity, do you click on your own link in one browser (or on one computer) more often than another?

backdraft7

6:06 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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That is entirely possible, however in a very positive development, I'm suddenly back ...and on the 72.14.204.103 DC no less. Maybe they were just reloading that DC, who knows. Strange but interesting, sometimes it's odd behavior like this that allows us to understand Goggle better, or not. :)

TheMadScientist

6:22 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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sometimes it's odd behavior like this that allows us to understand Goggle better

;)

I'm suddenly back ...and on the 72.14.204.103 DC no less.

Actually, you could be hitting a different DC on the same IP Address...
See this thread: [webmasterworld.com...] (Page 13 @ 20 Posts Per Page) and look for Tedster's post followed by WW_Watcher's for more information.

BTW: Welcome to WebmasterWorld!

supermanu

8:49 am on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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backdraft7, I notice also different results between Firefox and Chrome.

Cache & cookies cleaned, Logged out, same URL, only q as variable... exactly the same conditions.

Anyone else experienced this?

backdraft7

2:54 pm on Mar 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

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UPDATE: I'm back out. This time on 74.14.200.104 - from past experience with other sites, when you start ping-ponging like this, it's not good news. So much for the reloading theory. I'm tempted to start using Bing exclusively.

Dumping this site will be Google's loss too, because even though I hold (held) a large number of #1 spots on them, I still fork over $500+/month in Adwords to supplement those listings. Maybe they're thinking I'm duplicating my listing with Adwords and penalizing me for being a paying customer. It seems the non-paying MFA sites and the real GWMGL violators are shooting to the top of their SERPS. Hope they turn this around.

The only thing I have done that is substantially different lately is to lower some of my Adwords keyword bid amounts. Maybe they're forcing my customers through my Adwords ad, rather than the organic listings. That would be cold.

On three computers in my office:
1. I am gone on 72.14.204.104
2. I am in position 2 on 64.233.169.106
3. I am still in pos 1 on 72.14.204.147

Weird wild stuff as Johnny used to say...

Thanks for your continued insights & advice.

supermanu

2:55 am on Mar 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Hi backdraft7, I see no difference at all for the 3 IPs you posted.
For me there is just a difference for browsers in term of results.

backdraft7

3:23 am on Mar 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, it's lust plain odd...Google is obviously making changes. I just hope they are for the better. For now, I am back in...for now...I'm thinking this is not penalty related, otherwise I'd be flat gone.

backdraft7

12:33 pm on Mar 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

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"just plain odd"...not lust... :)