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12:55 pm on Nov 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

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GOOG is testing a possible new format.

Search results now present a left-hand side bar by default that allow the user to quickly select between image, video, news, maps, and other kinds. The sidebar also includes a list of similar search queries and an option to filter the results based on the date Google sniffed out the website.

From the register [theregister.co.uk]

Article with screen shots and "how to see the test page layout" ...if you didn't already

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FYI

javascript:void(document.cookie="PREF=ID=20b6e4c2f44943bb:U=4bf292d46faad806:TM=1249677602:LM=1257919388:S=odm0Ys-53ZueXfZG;path=/; domain=.google.com");

[edited by: tedster at 5:46 pm (utc) on Nov. 27, 2009]
[edit reason] fix side scroll [/edit]

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Tried the test layout and couldn't see it, but in looking at the screen shot, my first thought is: 'how original'

Sorry, couldn't resists...
Those links over there on the left just look, uh, how do you say, familiar?

BTW: Did anyone else notice result number one on that screen shot? The search was 'cats wearing fancy wigs', and the number one result was titled 'dogs wearing wigs' on a 'dogs wearing wigs page' with a link to the actual 'cats wearing wigs page' ... hmmmmmm, interesting ... Why would I want to see the dogs wearing wigs page when I searched for cats wearing fancy wigs and there's a page about my actual search on the same site? What's more is why would an algo determine dogs is the right answer when I typed cats?

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I don't know for how long this has been available however I was certainly playing with it last week.
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This has been available at least a month. Look for the 'Show options' link.
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This has been available at least a month.

Depends on where you are in the world :) USA or UK ..or if you can force GOOG to give you the dot com version of itself ..( I was "forcing" from France ..and still didn't know about it until seeing it on "el reg" )..anyway ..that is moot ..

Question is ( questions are )..

What do you think of it ?( and yes it does remind me of somewhere :) ..

From where I am it has no ads neither on the right ..nor above the serps ..nor "added" in ( except to youtube vids )..

As someone who spent 3 days ( previously ) searching ( and I do know how to search :)..normally takes less than 10 mins to get what I'm looking for ..but was running into pages and pages of shopping comparison sites in serps and / or adwords who didn't have either the product ..nor even a link to someone who did ..but they were adveritsing for the precise keyword or SEO'd for the precise keyword ..and in both cases "ruled GOOG" ) for a supplier of a very specific type of packaging ( for a widget we are selling internationally )..standard GOOG was junk ..

This "test apparently doesn't use the same DCs ..and the results are way better ..

But I had already found a supplier via Bing ( in the ads ) who actually was a real manufacturer ..and if their samples are OK they will have an order for 5K units per month beginning Jan 2010 ..

My verdict .the new GOOG interface is better ..the DC's they are using are better ..but if they dont do something to get rid of the shopping comparison sites ( all the usual huge ones that use the same "get your" "best price" in all languages ..but who are the worst quality affs out there from a user point of view ) that apparently GOOG have decided are immune to their QS policy ..

Then they will have wasted their time ..because a pig with lipstick ..is still a pig ..

BTW the manufacturer also advertised on GOOG ( they started to show up on page 3 ..pages 1 to 3 were comparison sites or B2B directories ..high QS apparently according to GOOG ) ..and they and I discussed search engines when I was giving them the precise specs as to what I needed ..

They told me that GOOG was driving them to despair ..every shopping engine and BB got higher than they did in both serps and adwords ..for their own products ..and they are one of only 3 actual manufacturers in Europe of the specific type of packaging ..

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or if you can force GOOG to give you the dot com version of itself

It's on my Google.co.uk in Firefox, Opera and MSIE. Just checked .co.in and .fr and it was there too...you're in France Leosghost?

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Look for the 'Show options' link.

I don't get the 'Show Options' link by default, but after joining the experiment I can see the new look...
It's the 'Social Search' option:

[google.com...]

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you're in France Leosghost?

yes ..but the option(s) only showed up here recently ..I've been used to forcing GOOG to give me the dot com as opposed to the dot FR ( depending on what I wanted to include as the real area of search for years ..check my old threads with GOOG PR people here :)
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Those links over there on the left just look, uh, how do you say, familiar?

The first thing I thought - the whole thing looks a lot like the other searchengine...
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This has been available at least a month. Look for the 'Show options' link.

I have been using it for a few weeks now. In general the refined results are good, but the "recent results" often returns pages that haven't been updated since 2003-2006. Perhaps they are still tweaking things, or the results are last spidered date rather than published date.

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>>BTW: Did anyone else notice result number one on that screen shot? The search was 'cats wearing fancy wigs', and the number one result was titled 'dogs wearing wigs' on a 'dogs wearing wigs page' with a link to the actual 'cats wearing wigs page' ... hmmmmmm, interesting ...

And now this thread is #1 for the cats wearing fancy wigs search, with your above post used in the description snippet. Yep, very interesting. :)

My best guess is that the dog listing is an "imperfect" KW co-occurrence issue. I had a site about womens clothes at one time, and couldn't get rid of Adsense ads running for dog clothing. I finally tracked it down to use of the word "fleece" on another page on the site, which I found was semantically related to animals (actually, sheep). They've gotten much, much better at ambiguous words like that.

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And now this thread is #1 for the cats wearing fancy wigs search, with your above post used in the description snippet. Yep, very interesting. :)

LMAO. I didn't check back, and now I can't decide if that's SEO at it's finest or worst, but at least I made a page rank number one in Google for something! (I always knew I could do it if I really worked at it.)

Back on-topic: The ideas behind the new features are kind of cool.

One of the things I like best is all the 'related' searches at the top and if they'd just remove 'em from the bottom when I don't have that link clicked and give me the results I searched for I'd be even happier...

Also, I really get tired of the 'Did You Mean' for almost everything I search for. Suggest for spelling errors, but not everything and definitely not semantics, EG when I search for mod rewrite, don't bother to suggest mod_rewrite and make me search again or think I need to, just give me a better mix of both in the results. I get tire of seeing 'Google's guess' when I search. After a while it's like the 'error boing' on my computer, but unfortunately I can't just turn the volume off to get rid of it in the results.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I wish they would go back to 'plain results' unless I opt for noise... Make the 'features' easily accessible, but don't keep showing them off to me. If I want them I'll ask by clicking a link. Thanks!

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I don't see a count when I do a site: operator search and I can see more than 1000 results, i.e. the old Gooooooooooooooooooooooooogle logo at the bottom.