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How to get 5 additional collapsed Listing in SERPs?

         

AnkitMaheshwari

6:37 am on Oct 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hi Guys,

Let me know how I can ensure that for my site Google displays the 5 additional intended links under the main two results as

"+" Show more results from www.example.com

Is there something I can do to get these additional collasped listings?

Thanks in advance.

Robert Charlton

8:46 am on Oct 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Ankit - At first I thought you were asking about the sublinks that I'd described earlier...

New Sitelink-type links with meta descriptions on some searches
[webmasterworld.com...]

As I've just noted on that thread, the collapsed listings appear to be slightly different... as if they're searches of brands within a parent company. These had been noted by others who posted on the thread. I haven't seen them yet in any competitive searches... just on the branded searches.

Are you asking about the branded searches... or are you asking about competitive searches too?

AnkitMaheshwari

4:22 am on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing these listing more often now and they are not restricted to brand searches. They appear for simple 2-3 word keyphrases in my niche. I have also seen them in some other niche but am unable to figure out what triggers it. In one particular case I saw this collasped listed for a fairly small site (only 100 pages indexed in Google).

Also, it is not necessary that it shows up for first result or first page, I have seen them on page #3 as well.

tedster

4:39 am on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm assuming that to get these links on a [keyword] search result, you first need to have many strong pages that will show up on a [site:example.com keyword] search. Or in other words, many pages that are being filtered out of the regular results but that could be candidates for ranking otherwise.

caribguy

4:45 am on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that gets a fair share of those. No idea what specifically triggers it. See it a lot on "location widget" type searches.

The site has a lot of pages for many different types of "widgets" - classified by various attributes. Mostly main + indented result (position varies) and "more results from www.example.com" The pages that are featured in G's "[+] results" can be both individual widget pages or the lists...

The number of pages in a site does not seem to matter, I've seen a 5-page website for a B/M come up with homepage, indented and 3 extended...

AnkitMaheshwari

5:02 am on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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@tedster
So you mean that when we have say nearly duplicate pages on our site these results come up? What I mean is earlier Google used to filter all other duplicates and show only one result, might be that now it has started to show them as these collapsed listing for user to decide.

@caribguy
I too have many keywords for which one of my site shows these listing bit I am unable to figure out what is triggering them.

tedster

5:17 am on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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No, I am not talking about near-duplicate pages at all. I'm talking about many pages that are unique and examine several different facets or angles of whatever [keyword] is.

The challenge you face in your search for an answer is this: it is a relatively new feature, so no one can be certain about it right now, except maybe a Google engineer - we're all learning.

caribguy

5:43 am on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The [+] pages also rank on their own merit. They seem more like "related results"

I'm going to try translating one typical set into signor-john's "elbonia" taxonomy:

Search term: elbonian bath houses

Results: (what-to-do-in-elbonia.com)
1: /activities/bathing
.2: /bath-houses/sweateroonys
[+] /bath-houses/olivebranch
... /hot-deals/daytime-activity
... /location/west-end
... /hot-deals/group-activity
... /bath-houses/bathnbreakfast

Result 1 consists of an alphabetical list of bath houses with address, short description and features
Results 2, 3 and 7 are individual providers of the service, with good information and user reviews
Results 4 and 6 are lists similar to 1

A search for elbonian daytime activities brings up #4 as the top position, and 6 more similar "related results"

Searching for elbonia sweateroonys will turn up the b/m website at #1 and indented, and /bath-houses/sweateroonys as #3

Robert Charlton

8:18 am on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm assuming that to get these links on a [keyword] search result, you first need to have many strong pages that will show up on a [site:example.com keyword] search. Or in other words, many pages that are being filtered out of the regular results but that could be candidates for ranking otherwise.

Excellent assumption. As near as I can tell from comparing displays and printouts of earlier serps (just noted in the other thread), these appear to be tests of thresholds for alternative displays of a [site:example.com keyword] search.

HuskyPup

1:20 pm on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)



I have a site that gets a fair share of those.

I reckon all my sites get these and considering I use my own standard template for all sites I actually put it down to the navigational structure I created since, on some very small sites, they actually show legal, privacy and cookie pages as links and on another site links to pages which although the titlbars and meta tags have all been completed, are actually pages under construction with "Lorem ipsum" awaiting the relevant text.

whitenight

1:56 pm on Oct 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

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into signor-john's "elbonia" taxonomy:

lol, "elbonia"?!
God, I'm slow.
No wonder why talking to "signor john" was sending me into spiraling memories of past debates with certain other posters. ;)
duh!

I actually put it down to the navigational structure I created

I think this factor and tedster's theory of "more than 2 strong pages" is the clue.

When I find more time (and if this is permanent) I'll definitely be testing for this.