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4:04 pm on Jul 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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So if PR is supposed to NOT have an affect on your rankings why in the he** is everone all over it like tween on the phone?

i have some PR issues, such as,

[example.com...] has a PR6,

and not secure,

http://www.example.com/thispage.asp has a PR4,

and i really dont give a crap, becuase i rank pretty damn well for all of my key phrases and seem to be moving up slowly but surely.

people keep telling me i have serious duplicate content issues, but it doesnt seemt to be affecting my ranks.

whats the deal?

why is everyone scattering when the PR drops or goes to 0 if its not affecting overall ranking?

4:11 pm on July 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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PR does affect ranking. It doesn't CONTROL ranking 100% but it is a factor.

People talk nonsense about PR because they aren't willing to take the time learn about it and study. They'd rather buy into whatever fairy tales are currently being talked up.

[edited by: lawman at 7:49 pm (utc) on July 16, 2009]
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4:20 pm on July 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I closed the book on the PR goose chase. Removed the Google spybar and now I don't worry about it.
4:35 pm on July 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

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PR is good information but not something many of us react too. Our site was a PR6 at one point. More recently we're bouncing between 4 and 5. Our traffic at PR4 is three times what it was when the site was PR6.
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people keep telling me i have serious duplicate content issues, but it doesnt seemt to be affecting my ranks.

whats the deal?

You might be doing better overall with all the link juice going to one "canonical" set of urls.

Duplicate content can divide your inbound link vote. Some sites may link to one url of a page, some to another. Eventually, Google is likely to drop one of urls, and you will have wasted a bunch of link juice.

With a canonical url problem, as you describe, you have a problem, sitewide, of not being able to control which version Google will display, and therefore not knowing which canonical to promote.

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duplicate content on the same site has less of an impact than duplicate content across different domains/IP addresses/hosts.

you can solve your http to https dupe issue with a nifty 301 redirect like:

RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} 80 RewriteRule ^(cart¦checkout¦complete) [%{HTTP_HOST}%{REQUEST_URI}...] [R=301,L]

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If you are reusing certain paragraphs on different pages, then I agree that it's rarely a problem.

But if you have canonical url problems, that can have a negative impact on rankings - because it keeps the PR for that content lower than what it could be. Anyone who hasn't been paying attention to this factor is missing the boat. Google sometimes can "fix" PR flow for canonical url issues these days, but I definitely don't count on it.

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OK guys - i am sure this is on topic - bare with me

I dont post here much but I am fairly active in the idustry twiddling the SEO knobs on my sites.

Recently my blog which pro had PR 3-4 has got grey barred. Its a bit spammy, but it is all orginal content that i use to profile new product my company releases along with case studies etc.

When I last made a post I noticed i had a GRAY BAR - weird I thght. Then I noticed I had a JS error. The site is on BLOGGER. On investigation I have found out that BLOGGER has inserted some code that is giving JS error on the blogger blgos (some of). It made me think, ... is this error relative to my GRAY BAR.

Genuinely I doubt it. But I have played with the removal of the code, via commenting out some <blogger> div or similar.

Commenting out the code rids me of the JS error. It also has another unusual effect in MSIE. What I have found that on MSIE, google toolbar will now show PAGE RANK on my GRAY BAR blog. But hte toolbar PR is in fact the PR from the page that I arrived at the BLOG from. This is just a bug I guess. But its not one I have seen before. And not one that I have been able to control.

All these factors have added up to make me think there is a connection between my grey barring, the blooger inserted code... and all things sinister.

Here is the buggy code

Here is the exact code:
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.example.com/static/v1/common/js/123456-csitaillib.js"></script>
<script>if (typeof(window.attachCsiOnload) != 'undefined' && window.attachCsiOnload != null) { window.attachCsiOnload('ext_blogspot'); }</script>

I wonder - if GOOGLE have used this on the BLOGGER blogs to detect what they think are spam blogs - SINCE it seems to be about STATS.

And that wld explain my GRAY BAR (i think)

OK guys i hope that is food for some thought. Over and out.

[edited by: engine at 3:27 pm (utc) on July 24, 2009]
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1:20 am on July 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It also has another unusual effect in MSIE. What I have found that on MSIE, google toolbar will now show PAGE RANK on my GRAY BAR blog. But hte toolbar PR is in fact the PR from the page that I arrived at the BLOG from. This is just a bug I guess

A very funny bug, too.

I don't know what that Blogger js injection is all about, but spam detetction doesn;t sound very likely to me.