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I've been runnnig my site for different keywords. My site is in Spanish.
For a couple of years, I had my pages at position #1. My pages have good titles, good h1, good inlinks, etc.
Since my site lost its PR (from 5 to 3) at Nov, some of my pages lost its rank to position #2 or 3.
I worked it out, so now I'm #2, but the wikipedia pages (which were #2 always) has now the first place.
In these days, one specifically keyword that I had for 4 years as #1, is glitching from position #1 to position #2. Another wikipedia page is taking me down.
So, is there a way to get or maintain position #1? I dont want to apply an strategy that will hurt my rankings.
Seems to be a deal between google and wiki.
I suspect it will get harder to beat it in all niches, because it's the top choice of lazy linkers. And by that I mean people find it easier to link to Wikipedia than to the original source of information. Rather than digging deeper into a topic most people will link to the first result they find, so long as it doesn't look like complete rubbish.
Seems to be a deal between google and wiki. Wish it otherwise, but that's what I see (and my clients as well... all begging me to get them above wiki).
it's walking up a slippery slope, but not impossible. i have seen it done; i doubt it's a hand shake under the table. just think of all the sites that link to wikipedia in order to cite a definition with the keyword, which the wikipedia article defines, as anchor text.
according to yahoo! over 6 million pages link to wikipedia:
but if you can't beat them join them; write some encyclopedic pages of your own:
what wikipedia teaches
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The wiki up front gets the lion share
...but as they don't provide services or carry ads, they're not going to be the end point for anything other than 'information' searches.
When looking for services/products, and many other types of searches, I *never* click the Wiki listings.
Good starting point for someone looking for an introduction to something sure, but not the be all and end all of search.
the is no DEAL between google and wiki......
the majority of Wiki pages rank well become they have very strong internal links from other pages within the Wikipedia domain.
so in theory if you went to these other pages on Wiki and found that some of the links were not relevant, then you would have cause to remove them as a community editor
thats about the way.
Also, I've has success in ranking above Wikipedia articles but they are KID domains. Heck if all else fails at least try and get an external (but nofollowed) link from the W. article! Might as well get some traffic off it as it will probably be ranking for long tail terms as well and get more traffic than your page might.
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