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New domain is in site: search but not for exact text

         

WebWalla

8:19 am on Apr 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have a new domain that has just gone online, but with old content (the old domain has a 301 redirect to the new domain name).

A site:example.com search shows pages from the new domain indexed but if I do an exact search of some text from the homepage between quotes nothing shows up.

Does this happen often? Is it simply a fact of waiting for the changes to synchronize across the different data centers? Normally I wouldn't worry and just sit it out, but it has been like this now for the last week already.

Thanks.

dstiles

9:45 pm on Apr 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Happened to one of my clients' sites a year ago and still happening - see the current thread "Strange acts of Google". And that site is about ten years old!

tedster

10:09 pm on Apr 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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How about this search: [site:example.com "exact text"] (drop the brackets)

g1smd

10:43 pm on Apr 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Be sure the redirect really is a 301 redirect.

Be sure there is not a chain of redirects here.
There should be just one step from old to new.

WebWalla

10:48 pm on Apr 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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tedster: yes, that search brings up the page.

g1smd: indeed this is the site that we've discussed in the Apache forum, but the homepage is correctly redirected according to several different Server Header Checker tools. The problem I had only affected the subdomains, never the homepage.

WebWalla

8:28 am on Apr 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Anybody else have this problem?
Thanks.

AnkitMaheshwari

8:38 am on Apr 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have seen it happen a number of times. Generally when a page is uploaded, it comes in the site: search however, no data in phrase search for that page.

Try using smaller phrases as that might work. Or wait for about a week and things will be normal (they will start to show) after another caching by Google.

karkadan

9:13 am on Apr 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm having a different prob. While searching for text (even when the page is indexed) my site does not appear. I also noticed that in some cases, text will be credited to someone "stealing" the text (the usual copy/paste site) and that some pages appear with no cache on Google.

WebWalla

8:16 am on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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>after another caching by Google.

The site has had 2 new cache dates since it went online, and it is still not showing up for exact text searches.

tedster: I'd like to know the intention of your question. Does the fact that that search does bring up the site have any significance?

tedster

4:29 pm on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I was interested to see if the page's content is fully tagged on Google's back end or not. Let me make sure I understand your answer. Are both these statements true?

1. A search for a unique phrase from the content, in quotes, does not show your home page. That is, "word1 word2 word3 word4 word5" = no results

2. A search for the same quoted phrase, but with site:example.com included, DOES return your home page, with the phrase shown in bold. That is site:example.com "word1 word2 word3 word4 word5" = example.com home page is returned, with the phrase bolded in the snippet.

[edited by: tedster at 8:45 pm (utc) on April 29, 2009]

WebWalla

6:03 pm on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yes tedster, that is exactly the situation. Both statements are true.

tedster

8:47 pm on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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That is a rather unexpected situation. I'm guessing that it's caused by the newness of the domain and it will sort out in time. The site: operator results seem to be pulled from a different set of tags than the main search results are, and the two are clearly not in sync for your site.

dstiles

11:37 pm on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Got the same with a 12 year old site. Been like it for best part of a year now - roughly since the geolocation, which we assumed was responsible at the time.

Quoted text for the home page, nothing (actually, several results headed "without quotes"). Add site:domain.co.uk and it comes up. Remove the word "site:" but leave everything else, nothing at all.

Strangely, very few pages return results except, notably, for a totally ridiculous page, which usually comes up in the top ten for ordinary searches (depending on keywords used).

This is looking at a UK domain using google.com with gl=us as well as with google.co.uk using either Web or UK search.

WebWalla

10:10 am on Apr 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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A ray of hope for me: exact text searches for other pages on the site work OK. It's just the homepage that displays this phenomenon.
I'm really hoping this will sort itself out with time and more links, because I'm banking a lot on this new domain!

WebWalla

7:36 am on May 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Finally today, exact text searches are showing up for this site's homepage after the 3rd different cache date.

Still not showing up for any reasonable keyword searches, but hopefully it's just a matter of time.

Although I did do a Reconsideration Request, I now believe the problem above was simply Google sorting itself out after I 301'd an old domain to this new one. At least I hope that's what it was and the site will start showing for keyword seacrhes soon.

WebWalla

10:14 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The domain today is finally showing up for normal keyword searches!

dstiles

10:21 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Good for you! :)

g1smd

10:51 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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About three weeks then. A little faster than normal, can sometimes take very many months,