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I have submitted a reinclusion request be hear nothing but bad things about how long this takes.
Our site is over 4 years old, never a problem until Dec 23rd when we were dropped from Google's index. I submitted a site map and Google indexed this and says we now have pages in its index (webmaster tools) however we do not. As well our pagerank went from 3-0.
I was wondering if we should just move all our content to a new site or wait to see what happens. We are loosing $$$$ each month because of this and we have no idea why this happened.
I just want to get back to normal as quickly as possible!
Simply moving the content can only be a short term solution at best, and without the rank and age of the old site, chances are the new one will be treated in the same way before the new site gets many visitors.
You need to work out why you were de-indexed and fix it.
Also, asking for a re-inclusion when nothing has changed is not a wise move, as it is a waste of Google's time. Fix first, THEN ask for a reinclusion. Think of it as a 'boy who cried wolf' issue; when the site IS fixed, Google may no longer be listening!.
You are correct Quadrille. After we fixed everything, which took me months we asked for a re-inclusion and after a month the site went from PR0 - PR3 and now has a PR5 but some internal pages have now PR6. I don't really care about PR and I was extremly happy that the site has hundreds of PR4 and PR5 pages. The site had before 40,000 pages of content and now it is just 1000 pages.
I learned my lessons and can now sleep well.
Google is basically a machine; there's always a logic to their actions, though machines don't see the world the same way we do.
Have you double checked the Google guidelines?
Is there no area that just might be causing problems for Google?
As all the memebers have stressed simply moving the content is not the solution you have to find the cause and correct it.
1- have you in the last 3 months had any outside SEO work done on the site?
2- been hacked?
3- Moved servers or IP address?
4- Been down for an extended period of time?
5- Changed CMS or URL's?
Have you checked your google webmaster world area for comments or emails as to maybe the site has been hacked and you're not aware of it?
Do you then do inhouse SEO for the site?
last week this showed an errorWhat showed an error and what did the error say?
con771 if your a member and have reviewed a couple sites as per the guidelines then I would highly suggest maybe submit the site for a review and the members can do a discovery.
My advice would be to keep reading these and other forums, re-read Google's guidelines, check that you don't have any messages from Google. Then undo any recent changes you've made to your site if you think any of them do contravene anything you've read in Google's guidelines or on forums. Undo them one at a time and submit your site for reconsideration, explaining fully what you've done.
Also check that you haven't added any extra links or entered any link schemes recently. If you have, get rid of them. It sounds like your sitemap is OK now though.
Don't move your site. OK it took me nearly 3 months to get our site back where it should be, but you'll have a lot more hassle if you move the whole thing than just some hard slog reading to do.
Keep looking, you might not have a clue at the moment (I didn't when our site was hit) but you'll find it in the end.
I currently have no messages from Google either.
It is very frustrating as we aim to be 100% legit from the get go.
Only resubmit your site when you've made a big change, not just a page title here and there.
Check your keyword density - shouldn't be more than 5% per page and that includes in links, alt text etc.
You say Google hasn't indexed any of your pages? Nothing if you type site:http://www.yourdomain.com into Google?
[edited by: tedster at 6:31 pm (utc) on Jan. 5, 2009]
[edit reason] switch to example.com - it can never be owned [/edit]
Today it is really hard to get a total ban from google unless there is really something bad.
What kind of DB are you using for the site?
I have a site simular to the one which was dropped by google. The other site is over 3 years old with a lower PR.
I was thinking about moving just the content (250+) articles to this site in order to draw in more traffic since the other site is removed from google. The only thing which would be the same is the articles not the code in anyway.
I'm loosing to much $ waiting for the site to come back (and not knowing if it ever will)
I was not talking about creating a new site from scratch.
Alternatively, for users, you could move the content from the old site and just leave a message and a link (with a 'nofollow' tag) to your newer site.
Then if your newer site suffers the same penatly, you'll know it's your content.
Is your newer site on the same server as the penalised one? If so, it'll be more likely that the content is the problem.
So a re-index would be excellent and what I really need. I've made a few changes but still no reply from google and I sent the reinclusion request 3 weeks ago.
Make sure you've blocked the pages on your old site with a robots.txt file before moving content to the newer one.
Short of moving all your content to your new site, your only other choice is to concentrate on your older site to find the problem. If you didn't make any changes to your site, maybe your server was hacked, but you do need to find out for sure what the reason is.
If your server was hacked, perhaps you could try moving the domain to another host and then submit a reconsideration request to Google.