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These client sites may have 10 inbound links and the rich content site has over 6000 ones built over the years.
Does content and organic history have no longer a meaning for Pagerank ? Then the question would be, why not dump an obviously useless and malfunctioning system ?
This forum had seen loads of talks about results featuring pages on top with high PR that were 100% against big G`s official policy and why does a site go down 2 stairs under Google`s graceful evaluation without any substantial changes other than regular content updates ?
We have seen this before and over the years when that site saw rides between 2 and 8. No artificial links, entries at Wiki, DMoZ, Yahoo, Google.
Google should either produce proper evaluation or leave that fragile PR scheme for the dustbin when it can not produce real sense!
All our other sites didn`t change either. Perhaps big G is now manually selecting and downgrading sites that they don`t like?
I had a prominent site go from 6 to 5 a few months ago and yesterday to a 3
Looks like manual reviews are taking place and they don`t like your site.
guys anyone else has experienced this in last 2-3 days then please share hear.
Looks like manual reviews are taking place and they don`t like your site.
Looks like the same may apply to you too.
Who the hell cares about PR anymore? When will all the PR topics just stop? Google, please get rid of the Toolbar, please? :)
Looks like manual reviews are taking place and they don`t like your site.
A lot of the sites that link to me have lost PR, nearly every one of them, in fact, that had PR of 5+ have lost a point. .coms and .edus. The main DMOZ page that I'm on lost all of it's PR about a year ago. Everything that I linked to (my other sites, mainly) have lost 2 points as well due, I'm sure to my lower rank.
Traffic is about 5% off yesterday, but that's within normal fluctuations and is the same as 3 weeks ago.
AdSense revenue however seems to be more closely tied to PR than to traffic for me as it has declined sharply the last two days. It had increased sharply when I attained a PR of 6 after 2 years at 5. I didn't notice a drop when I went from 6 to 5.
A lot of the sites that link to me have lost PR, nearly every one of them, in fact, that had PR of 5+ have lost a point.
This has been ongoing for the past year or more. There have been PR reductions across the board each time a PR update occurs. Normally, most don't see any effect on traffic, a few do. I do believe that what you are seeing is the PR recalculation that takes place on a larger dataset each time. The more new entries in that dataset, the more PR has to be spread. That is why the effect is usually "across the board" in many industries. I personally feel some industries are capped, I really do. They may not see anything higher than a PR6.
If you look at the PR overall within an industry and the highest seems to hover around PR6, those PR3, 4 and 5 sites are usually healthy and performing as expected.
With all the changes taking place right now in preparation for the holidays, I'm sure we're going to see all sorts of discussion about the wild things taking place with Google SERPs. They are already out there. In fact, it has been non stop all year. :)
I really like the new RANDAL (Randomized Algorithm). I knew it was coming. ;)
i had started this thread after one of our best 10 year old sites got axed from 4 to 2 sitewide. Of course that doesn`t feel good. In particular when plenty other sites that we run have much higher ranks despite very limited content, traffic and inbounds in comparison.
This Google PR system is much too buggy. Not to mention those, who seem to do manual reviews and roll out penalties or whatever.
Looks like the same may apply to you too.
Over the past weeks two established sites were hit like that. One went from 4 to 0.
Advertisers certainly do care about PR and i would be surprised of big G rankings and traffic also look at where your PR is.
Our ten year old site had been around PR 7 and 8 a couple of years back. Finding that one now being sent down from 4 - 2 despite massive upgrades and multiple amounts of unique content over the years doesn`t speak for the quality of this PR system.
From our point of view it only does damages to everyone apart from the tricksters who can shove any dirt to the top.
The cheapest stuff can get a PR 4 easily.
Our ten year old site had been around PR 7 and 8 a couple of years back. Finding that one now being sent down from 4 - 2 despite massive upgrades and multiple amounts of unique content over the years doesn`t speak for the quality of this PR system.
From your example - I don't see them hand editing. Because your site is based on quality contents. But Googlers are looking to punish only those sites which are buying/selling links to manipulate SERP.
I would assume - your site is not involved in any of those - so why would they punish you?
Not logical point.
so why would they punish you?
All 5000 inbounds are purely organic with free yahoo directory listings, odp, wiki included.
How can anyone see if any of the purely content and service related outbound links is purchased on a large site with thousands of URLs ?
Probably best to stop any linking like so many sites do now. Also that is destructive for Big G`s faulty ranking system giving more weight to purchased and spammy links.
