Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
A set of holiday season penalties and filters just rolled out.
[edited by: tedster at 3:21 am (utc) on Nov. 1, 2008]
In other cases there has been no change. It is like there is at least two distinct and completely different algos being used.
there is a hollywood party at plex and they all decided to give us a scare of our lives.
should i add that there's no engineer on duty to get things sorted with this nerve wrecking change.
social bookmarks are completely devalued for internal pages as well.interesting...
anyone else noticing this?
Quite possibly this has contributed as well. I have a lot of links like this.
older "verified" links are not getting affected. newer - built 2 weeks ago or less (that did have feasible effect on SERPs for smaller keywords) are getting nullified.
I'm seeing this as well. Older pages are looking very healthy in the serps and newly added pages have been very unstable.
Social bookmarking links? I thought Google was onto those a long time back
Maybe you're right. I was thinking about social networking sites? - I rely on these a lot. I think these have been devalued as well now. Certainly explains my results.
Seeing my serps come back just now, rankings back as were or better.
p/g "
Not seeing it yet...
I see the same thing too Kidder, most of the big players are back, with some refreshing new changes.
Phew.. Lets hope that wasn't a test of future serps cos if so I'm worried!
To me, it seems they have been de-valuing certain links so see what happens. It certainly seemed to my hit sites with newer links harder....
From my brief look it seemed they were devaluing content and ranking solely based on links. Or possibly giving huge weight to big brand name sites. There seemed to be a number of huge sites with very little info on the subject outranking large content sites dedicated to the topic.
One site I noticed in #3 spot was a brand name organisation with a single short forum post on the topic that was unanswered. Reminded me of 2002 where DMOZ was near the top for everything.
Back to normal in the UK this morning.
EDIT> My references to a non-commercial topic with only a handful of relevant sites so easy to see where the useful sites ended up.
But I see one of my sites that was knocked to oblivion is back where it was before the recent ranking developments.
> I am finding that is some cases my well-linked, well-ranked sites have disappeared and some old sites of mine with only one or two incoming links - that have never placed well - are now placing quite well for competitive commercial keywords.
> Same here, UK results back to normal. I suspect this algo might come back in a lighter form though a some point, I wonder what its intention was?
I'm going to guess it's related to inbound links. Various people reported their home page was affected and as you know most inbound links are to the home page. If Google turned a dial really hard undermining IBLs, dropping ranking points based on, say, "suspect" IBLs, it would wreak havoc on home pages.
p/g
Link from directories (paid or free doesn't matter) are a no go.
Link exchange with relevant sites via a link exchange program is a no go.
Links via blog comments are a no go.
Links on signatures are a no go.
How I am supposed to get traffic and build natural linking if I am nowhere in the index?
G wants my money for adwords campaings? FORGETABOUTIT!
Having nothing to loose, I wonder if I have to start the worst black hat SEO just for the hell of it.
@koded: I have 20 cats so I might come and buy some pet food ;-) and i have my rod, lures and hooks ready!
Link from directories (paid or free doesn't matter) are a no go.
Link exchange with relevant sites via a link exchange program is a no go.
Links via blog comments are a no go.
Links on signatures are a no go.
You will find allot of information about how best to go about promoting your site in WebmasterWorld. These are all legitimate ways to build traffic and inbounds but you must also adhere to basic SEO guidelines. Many blogs and directories add nofollow to comment outbound links so my take is that this would only really be done for the sake of creating awareness of your site.
The keywords are organic and moderation!
Looks like my site has got its #1 ranking back for its main auxilliary. I did however lose my 10-place boost for my main. Also, long tail traffic seems up.
Seems like they rolled back (at least in google.nl)
what i see since Sep2008 and even since beggining of 2008 is:
google.com performing bad and google.com.br performing a little bit friendly to my 2 work keywords
as google.com performed even worst my google.com.br position get a bit worst
some internal pages got yo-yo effect jumping from first positions to page 3 then 10 then 3 again
googlebot is visiting my site with only 66.x.x.x. ips and very slow only 100 pages per day are crawled
page rank not assigned yet, is growing and taking time to be ranked at all
some competitors with poor sites and no content performing well
many inbound and out links are getting many time to be crawled but take a very fast time when they are being un-crawled (in case of 404 pages supposing i remove the page google is fast to observe this)
get one week of pure heaven and then googles pit again
some pages that had good titles and performed well are not appearing on serp some new pages are grey rank for a while
well i have been reading 1000 posts nothing concret is there no one can explain so i guess i am going to a metaphisical aproach praying some Algo mantras to see if this can get better!
thanks
Claudio
Are you guys seeing a rollback, as the serps I'm monitoring haven't moved at all since last check a couple days ago.
(Google.ca, Google.com from canada, and Google.com via proxy browser)
