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Has anyone recovered from June 4th catastrophe?
[edited by: tedster at 5:43 am (utc) on July 1, 2008]
Chaning current sites makes no sense at all since in most cases you need to change the url/file structure.
[edited by: SEOPTI at 9:34 pm (utc) on June 30, 2008]
started to see a few shorter tail terms begin to slowly come back up, long tails are still nowhere.
Now that's surprising to me - I'd expect to see long tail traffic first, if anything.
Note, in the original June 4 thread [webmasterworld.com] there were already reports of some recoveries, even with no changes made to the website.
No it is a one page site with a buy now page being the only other page, no navigation
It happened over the weekend.
On sunday, i jumped to position 4 for my major phrase, then when i check on sunday, it had completely dissapeared.
Even when searching for my sites name (and we're the only site called this, plus i have all the domains, .co.uk, .com, .net).
Now when i look, the first listing of my actual domain is on page 6, all the previous entries are pages about my site.
I'm really hoping this is a glitch, its only been gone for 2 days.
I'm going on holiday tomorrow, i hope that when i come back 18 months work hasn't been wasted.
I'm using exactly the same, safe link building techniques as i use on my other sites, all which have kept their positions.
Has anyone else suffered any similar problems where their ranking came back after a few days?
[edited by: tedster at 9:46 am (utc) on July 1, 2008]
[edit reason] I removed specifics [/edit]
I meant to say On SATURDAY, i jumped to position 4 for my major phrase, then when i check on sunday, it had completely dissapeared.
[edited by: tedster at 9:46 am (utc) on July 1, 2008]
Complete site overhaul and upgrading from static site to Drupal. Hope to complete by end of July. Will keep 90% of content add some fresh pages, blog, etc, new <ul> navigation but keeping same URL structire, will also move site to a different dedicated server. Small and tightly controlled “hello, over here” link campaign.
This has hit us hard and I wish I could have done the overhaul when we had more time at the end of the year but G habecome impatient and so we must obey : (
Will post back if that 'redeems' us!
PS Tedster, great respect to you but why you locked that June 5th thread down, which could have helped to identify patterns in the specific problem, was most unhelpful.
My domain example.com, used to be no. 1 for "example", we are the only site called this, and very popular, quite a well known name in our industry.
This keyphrase was not even a prime keyword, as it was our product name... our prime keyphrases were big keywords in our industry.
Now when i look, the first listing i can see with my domain, example.com is a deep linked page within the site
e.g.
example.com?id=423423&page=whatever
if i actually search my domain (e.g example.com) it does come up no. 1, but if i search for my brand name (i.e. example without the .com) its gone, plus ive just lost all my other phrases.
i've just been through every page on google searching for "example" and i cant see my homepage at all, its completely gone.
no even on the last page.
Major Ranking Losses on 2008 June 4 - 5 [webmasterworld.com]
i'm seeing pages devalued in my niche and from where i'm looking there appears to be a tune up of the dupe filters on Meta's and titles.
any one else seeing this factor in the Serp's
Vimes.
In my case it's single keyword search, and the sites being shuffled aren't delivering solutions to different intent - all or virtually all are commercial sites. Again positions 1-3 have till now remained untouched by this.
Interested if anyone else is seeing this yet?
the server is hosted in central europe and served italian users...
no blackhat stuff going on, admittedly we had very few external links but i cant see that as a reason to lose 90% of traffic from literally one minute to the next...
the same site exists in 10 other languages, same site architecture, internal linkage, etc but no traffic loss on the other sites...
we had a couple external links to partner sites in the footer (completely unrelated - they were not paid links but links to sites whose owners we know) which we have now removed... but could that seriously be the reason to lose 90% of traffic?!
i am at a loss... any ideas?
We lost 90% of traffic on a 100,000+ pages & 5000 visits per day website on June 26 at 12.00 GMT... anyone else experience the same?
I sure hope not! That would be considered a disaster when losing 90% of traffic on 5000 visitors per day. That leaves you with 450 visitors which if your income is based soley on Google traffic means layoffs and possible closure.
I would have been on the horn contacting Google immediately if anything like that were to happen. Either you've been manually banned or, you have a "major" technical glitch or, I don't think there is another or.
no blackhat stuff going on
What is blackhat stuff?
We had a couple external links to partner sites in the footer (completely unrelated - they were not paid links but links to sites whose owners we know) which we have now removed... but could that seriously be the reason to lose 90% of traffic?!
I'd say that would be a possibility if there were other signals present but we don't know the whole story so we can only provide clues.
I am at a loss... any ideas?
Contact Google, file a Reinclusion Request. Login to your Google Account and ping them immediately. Provide a complete outline of what has happened and the steps you've taken to address any potential guideline violations if there were any.
Has anyone been fiddling with the technical underpinnings of that site?
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I think that was around the date when our site dropped, it has only around 100 pages with about 1000 visits daily before this happened. Now it's down to about 100-200 ARGH! I'm seeing some changes on DC's so try looking on;
[72.14.207.104...]
[72.14.207.107...]
To see if your SERPs are intact on them....
htt*://66.249.89.107/
htt*://66.249.89.*
some HUGE page result fluctuations for some sites both up and down.
CNN for an example has tripled in size.
i didn't think Google did Data Pushes anymore but thats what these DC's look like to me.
Vimes.
[edit to remove link]
[edited by: Vimes at 10:55 am (utc) on July 2, 2008]
yup seeing rotations in the serps that have been going on for months. In our serps top position is held solid for one site others rotate between 2-5 on daily basis, others rotate between pos 6-10. This goes on for a week or two, most positions (apart from nos 1) reshuffle and the rotation starts again.
Seems like ther is a rotation of order but its not random.
I cant understand why this is not making headline news.
I'm seeing some changes on DC's so try looking on...
Huh? Heck, if you want to see changes in the SERPs, just check your positions every couple of hours. There's no need to go rummaging through the DCs, is there? I mean, are those things even remotely predictable? I don't know, I've never "watched" them. What am I missing? Is it worth my time to monitor those DCs?
