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2:58 pm on Apr 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

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For the past few months one of our sites kept suffering from multiple things:

1. Proxy hijacking, which seemed to be fixed but this is when pages started disapearing from the webmaster tools.

2. Some incoming links from very low end website networks. Placed there either by a competitor or by the webmasters themselves for whatever reason.

3. Some copyright infrigement, but nothing major (or maybe yes I dunno)

Consequence of which the pagerank dropped significantly on the homepage, to PR3 then internal pages have no pagerank anymore - except for those that the Webmastertools shows!

The webmaster tools show about 5 pages out of a total of over 250.

Now when I search for an exact match from the unique content of the homepage, another site is shown 1st, a domain info website that grabs the content automatically!

I was wondering what kind of hell is that.
We never bought text links, nor used any technique that is against what Google wants.

Can a site recover from this? I mean I never saw anyone saying their site has recovered.

7:52 pm on Apr 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I have heard a couple reports of recovery. In fact, your description of the level of trouble doesn't sound too overwhelming. There may be more going on than you have identified so far. I'd strongly suggest a good check-up on all the technical aspects of your website, perhaps starting with your server logs for clues.

The key to recovery in both cases I know of had several parts:

1. Continue to develop the site: attract some new, strong backlinks
2. Go after DMCA violators
3. Make sure your site is squeaky clean on Google's guidelines
3. File a Reinclusion Request

You didn't mention how many "some" means for inbound links, but usually this kind of damage requires quite a significant number if it's going to swamp the natural backlink profile.

Interesting that this problem affected which pages Webmaster Tools will show. I'm not sure if that is a new standard or just a symptom of the moment at Google.

8:50 pm on Apr 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Now when I search for an exact match from the unique content of the homepage, another site is shown 1st, a domain info website that grabs the content automatically!

Is this the domain info site that Google is using for its Whois query info? If so, the exact same thing happened to me. The homepage of an 8-year old site, with good authority (sitelinks for various searches), natural links from on-topic sites and good SERPs completely disappeared from the index for 12 hours.

Searches for unique text from this homepage showed only the domain info site mentioned, because that site uses a tool that copies the ENTIRE HTML content of the index pages it shows. Although I don't think this is related to the disappearance from Google.

Anyway, fortunately after just 12 hours the index page returned to the index, with the same rankings as previously. Probably just a glitch during the Dewey update, but I still don't like the fact that that site shows the complete HTML code of our sites' index pages.

[edited by: WebWalla at 8:53 pm (utc) on April 26, 2008]

9:04 am on Apr 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I've always suspected something going on either the server was hacked or through incoming links placed by competitors.
I just never could find anything on the server itself, and the low quality incoming links are representing maybe 30% of the total - not sure if that's enough to distabilize a site that always did good on Google until back a few months ago.

I was thinking of entirely rewriting the site and moving it to another server. It's a radical approach but maybe it's the solution.

the site has always been super clean with Google's guidelines.

Another troubling thing is that Google alert shows these pages that are not in Webmastertools as new discovered pages - these are 3 or 4 years old pages, for the life of me that's not normal right?

Webwalla >> yes, we are talking about the same "Domain Tool" website I'm sure. This website copies the entire HTML and argues that this is not copyright infrigement citing some lawsuit for reference. I don't agree, this is copyright infrigement since they have no authorisation to publish the content whatsoever.

 

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