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Pass the Dutchie

11:58 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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3 months ago I completely changed the content of certain pages within our site and had several decent inbounds link to this page from decent on topic sites. In most cases this would help to increase awareness but instead this page has been completely removed from Google's SERPS.

Some history: Due to a DNS misconfiguration last Aug the whole site was completely removed. After fixing the problem and requesting re-inclusion the site as a whole is now back to previous levels.

The confusing thing is that I am now faced with a few individual pages that have been banned for over three months now. They were indexed 3 months ago and given PR5 at the last PR update which still holds. However, unique text on the page is nowhere to be found.

I have thought about re-writing the pages content, renaming it and starting over but its quite a big job and it already has several decent links from related sites.

I thought about requesting additional links from authoritative sites but I have a feeling this may make the problem worse and be a waste of time if the page is no longer indexed or even visited by Google.

Any ideas how to re-index individual site pages?

Thanks

db

tedster

3:58 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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However, unique text on the page is nowhere to be found.

Have you checked all the way through? Or are there simply no results at all?

pageoneresults

4:34 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Is it possible that there is something on those pages that Google doesn't take kindly to? I've seen instances where individual pages within a site appear to be just fine but upon further digging, its almost as if they have this forcefield around them and they just don't perform.

I think its one of those 10,000+ QC people that find these pages and give them "the mark". ;)

man in poland

5:25 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I think I have the same situation. Are the pages that have been "zapped" completely removed from the Google SERPS or are they just ranking extremely low? If they are entirely banned, I'm suprised that they would still show the PR green bar. They should show grey bar.

Lorel

3:02 am on Mar 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Have you checked the page(s) for links to bad neighborhoods?

steveb

8:35 am on Mar 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It just sounds like they are supplemental.

It's not a penalty, it's a "feature".

Pass the Dutchie

7:34 pm on Mar 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for feedback. After doing some more research I have found out that a unique phrases only found on the page in question does not display the page in Google. However, using quotation markes, "unique phrase" the page shows up in Google with a recent cache date.

I have been advised to resubmit a reinclusion request as it seems it needs a manual review. Not sure i have a choice here do you?

youfoundjake

2:01 am on Mar 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I'm curious to as how many results for the unique phrase there are, and then how many results for the "unique phrase" there are. It could be that it's dropped below the first 949 results being displayed, (tongue in cheek)
If it shows up with quotation marks, it doesn't sound like a penality to me, but just lowered.
Particularly if you are getting TBPR on it.

Pass the Dutchie

7:16 am on Mar 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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When searching for "unique phrase" the page in question is the only result. I have checked the sup index and all positions in the serps for this unique phrase and it is not there. The page only appears for the unique phrase (and other on the page) with the speech marks.

Now when I search for keywords associated with this page I would expect the page to feature on the first page. I draw this conclusion because other pages under almost exactly the same circumstances on the same site do. Instead, other related pages which have less external links pointing to it (one or two as opposed to 20 or so) and are lower site tier pages appear on the third page.

And could anyone explain what when searching google.de for this exact phrase this sentence at the foot of the page appears: Aus Rechtsgründen hat Google 2 Ergebnis(se) von dieser Seite entfernt. Weitere Informationen über diese Rechtsgründe finden Sie unter ChillingEffects.org. which roughly traslates to:" Due to a dispute Google has removed 2 result(s) from this side. Further information about these arguments can be found under ChillingEffects.org."

I came across this previous article in WebmasterWorld [webmasterworld.com...]

This is very unique text which I personally wrote. No chance of copyright etc.

tedster

7:23 am on Mar 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Someone has claimed copyright violation under the DMCA - not PROVEN it, but claimed it. It is only an allegation. If you feel those claims are falsely made against your page, you can the follow "counter-notice and put-back procedures" of the DMCA.

[chillingeffects.org...]

Pass the Dutchie

3:24 pm on Mar 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Hi Ted,

Thanks for the input but I find it hard to believe. Not that there is the potential for someone to do something like this but because there certainly is.

Its just this page has hardly seen the light of day since I 301 redirected from its old to its new URL.

I am also not sure how it is possible to draw this conclusion. The statement only appears from SERP page 24 an onwards. It also says that 2 results are removed but not which ones have been removed.

I think I have no choice but to make a re-inclusion request and I hope there is someone at the plex who can see the problem.

I will post back with the results.

Cheers

tedster

5:11 pm on Mar 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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...but not which ones have been removed.

You can go to ChillingEffects and choose "Search the Database". If indeed Google removed your page, the particulars will be recorded there.

[edited by: tedster at 12:00 am (utc) on Mar. 12, 2008]

minnapple

11:52 pm on Mar 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Delete the page and all internal links to it.
Wait three weeks and upload the page and add the internal links back to it.

Pass the Dutchie

1:40 pm on Mar 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

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thanks for your suggestion Minnapple and I think your solution would be a viable one if this page was not an integral part of the site.

I submitted the re-inclusion request for the page less than 24 hours ago and the page has since re-appeared in SERPS! Either this is a massive coincidence or the page has been reinstated based on my re-inclusion request.

Thanks all.

Dutchie