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What did I do wrong now? Traffic and clicks going down.

         

JustKidding

8:10 pm on Nov 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Few days back I derived my cause for not making money from adsense even after having 130 articles uniquely written. Because, 120 were listed under supplemental results so I added 2-3 back links everyday from forums, blogs and community sites to get my 30 articles out of the supplemented result.

I even started getting good organic traffic and made money on clicks. I kept on uploading 1-2 articles daily for last 2 weeks which I have been doing for last couple of months as well.

Now, I am getting a back-kick from google. Instead of increasing in traffic and clicks I am decreasing. Once again I lost 10 articles out of the non-supplemented results. I never even bought a single link for my site, I don’t do trading with others. I don’t use any black hat tricks to drive the traffic.

What is that I have done wrong now by which I lost some of my organic traffics? I know if I drive in more visitors then I can get more clicks and more money.

Please advise me…

nippi

10:13 pm on Dec 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

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how good r your articles

Atomic

12:00 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Good enough to be linked to regularly on national news websites. That may not be a true indicator of quality but it works for me.

nippi

1:04 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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is english your first language

Atomic

1:40 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It certainly is.

nippi

2:07 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Loss of pages within 3-6 months of them getting indexed by Google, says to me your content has been looked at by google and allowed into its index, then be deemed not worthy as

a. Seemingly auto created.
b. Duplicate content.
c. Over optimised.eg

Want to learn how to clean your fridge. To get a clean fridge, first you need a dirty fridge that needs cleaning. After you've got a dirty fridge, how to clean your fridge can be a dirty job, so you really need to know the best way to clean your dirty fridge.

I am betting you are writing for search engines instead of people, and your inbounb links are poor quality

Atomic

2:13 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I am betting you are writing for search engines instead of people, and your inbounb links are poor quality

I am 100% positive that you have no idea what I do since you are completely wrong. Unless you're referring to someone else. Inbound links like NBC news? Hmmmmm, you may think of that as a poor quality link. I don't. The rest of what you wrote doesn't apply to me at all. Nothing you wrote does.

What you've said may apply to the starter of this topic. If so, then everything you've said may be true.

[edited by: Atomic at 2:16 am (utc) on Dec. 3, 2007]

Miamacs

2:38 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What does GWT say about your site's relevancy?

Do your inbound links' anchor text support everything you have on site?

nippi

3:10 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Atomic

I see we have a misunderstanding. my posts were directed to Justkidding, and I thought it was the thread starter who was responsing

In summary.

I think English is not his/her first language.

His/her site does not have links from news sites.

I rarely see a new "how to" site that is any good, with content really just being slightly rewritten from other sites, and being search engine not people targeted.

I maintain sudden indexing of pages, followed by gradual decline in page numbers, is usually becuase your pages have been

1. indexed by google and past a first check of "possibly inclusion worthy"

2. google does a 2nd and 3rd check to determine "are you REALLY worthy?" If you aren't you bleed pages.

3. Google looks at who is recommending you, and builds up a pattern. Got a dodgy pattern = Lose more pages.

Atomic

3:11 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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They sure do. I'm not worried about what I'm seeing right now because I am tracking the same thing on sites that I have nothing to do with. It all reminds me of the Big daddy rollout a couple years ago if anything.

Atomic

3:12 am on Dec 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I thought it was the thread starter who was responsing

That explains a lot. I'm sorry I jumped in there. I was confused because I had just posted and thought your comments were directed at me.

JustKidding

5:26 pm on Dec 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes, my first language is not English but at the same time I don’t write for my site. I have some quality writers to write for me. I even don’t edit before posting my stuffs at webmasterworld forum.

I am picking the titles for my site on the basis of keywords search and my contents are not auto generated. If you look into your analytics and find someone is getting into your site for phrases where you have lesser content. You feel that you have more to say on that and write an article about it, this doesn’t sound me as written for search engine. Search engine is just a media to reach my niche and know my potential user behaviors. I don’t have quality inbound links as yet, that’s causing me to get into supplemental list. My pages are not at all over optimized. I know a much about clustering of key phrases and keywords to decide a page is all about. BTW I am a phd student in US. Just to give you a clue, if I buy a pr 7 link and take my pages out of the supplemental index then I can easily make 50$ a day out of a 80days old website. This is just based on the facts as I am making 10$ a day out of my 40 articles. I have around 250 pages in my site and all are with similar potentials. If I can make $50 then why am I not making it? I don’t know anyone from a similar niche with a pr 6 or above who can sell a link, at the same time I am scared of google. I am also looking forward to make it a serious business.

Summarizing why a page gets supplemental with best of my knowledge:

1.If the site is new with less pr to distribute along all the pages then few pages will get in and out of the regular index for a while.
2.If duplicate title and description then high chances of getting supplemental.
3.If major content of a page is similar to other pages of the site then it will get supplemental too.

Solutions:

1.If a site is new then participate heavily in forums and blogs to get some links and traffic to your site, don’t worry for the nofollow tags. That might not give you any juice but it will never hamper you from any respect as said by Matt Cutts. High chances that someone will find your page interesting and give you a link or help you in promoting by posting here and there. Always try getting a proper anchor text for your link so that search engine will at least get aware of what the page is all about.
2.Try to improve your internal link structure and give nofollow tags to the pages which are not important.
3.If you have duplicate title and description then change it, yahoo might treat you differently for couple days but sooner you do better for future.
4.If you have major of your pages similar to each other then there are ways to make it different so make it different to get out of supplemental index.

Don’t try to throw stones on others, I am here for experience guys who can share some valuable stuffs. I know I don’t have much to share, I wish I could. I would never get personal and try throwing mud on others.

Miamacs

5:57 pm on Dec 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Uh... honestly, I'm curious.

What does GWT say about your site's relevancy?

Do your inbound links' anchor text support everything you have on site? ( ie. do most links have the proper anchor text or are for example URLs, your username, the sitename in your forum signatures... etc )

JustKidding

6:06 pm on Dec 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If you are driving traffics to your home page then create related keyword user id and link with your domain. You can make a lot of postings in related forums and blogs to get some users to articles or pages inside from your site. Don't do anything which might look unnatural to search engines. Do it in a balanced way.

nippi

12:39 am on Dec 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

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This thread, contains no personal attacks at all, though it does contain personal opinions, which is all anyone has to offer.

I would test your pages at copyscape.com to see if your articles are truly unique.

Miamacs

2:42 am on Dec 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Do your inbound links' anchor text support ...

aah... I give up.
*groan*

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