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I have also putted the site’s US address on home page and has stopped searching on Google PK and log in etc with the site account since 3 months. And yeah also let me know you that all the back links are form US sites, somewhat are from UK but no one from PK.
I am just worried how to let the Google know if the site is US targeted site not a PK OR what things I need to be implemented or done that would help a lot.
Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated, many many thanks in advance
[edited by: tedster at 7:06 pm (utc) on Nov. 25, 2007]
1. a .com TLD
2. a US IP address
3. a US address on-page
4. a strong backlink profile from the US
If you don't already have a Webmaster Tools account, that might help you - for one thing you will more feedback from Google's point of view. In addition, Webmaster Tools now allows you to set a geographic target (and also to say "No target"). That step could put your mind at ease that you've done what you can.
I have several thoughts about the search and the algo you may be seeing....
You say...
My emphasis:
I used to searching on Google PK while log on the site Google account whole day.
Could it be that you have some sort of personalized search enabled? Have you tried these searches when logged out?
Also...
I think Google took it a PK site. My site ranking is now very well on Google PK but nowhere in Google.com.
Are you comparing google.com.pk results for "the web" with google.com results? If so, they are not the same. (I'm not talking about "pages from Pakistan" results).
From time to time, I speak to foreign optimizers who tell me that filters that we often see here, in the US, haven't yet been applied to results in their countries. It's possible that you might therefore be ranking on "the web" results on google.com.pk and not yet be ranking on google.com... particularly, I should mention, since your site is only five months old, still fairly new for google.com.
[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 6:19 am (utc) on Nov. 26, 2007]
Could it be that you have some sort of personalized search enabled? Have you tried these searches when logged out?
No Robert Charlton, nothing like that, and yeah I have tried a lot and also m not searching log in the account since 3 months.
Are you comparing google.com.pk results for "the web" with google.com results? If so, they are not the same. (I'm not talking about "pages from Pakistan" results).
Yup I am … and yeah never have tried with "pages from Pakistan" when I just searched one of my keywords (notebook computers) from "pages from Pakistan" what I am seeing I am at Num 1st :). Really Google has taken it a PK sit though its domain is not like .PK.
Seems me very difficult situation, m just waiting for your help and suggestions
If you don't already have a Webmaster Tools account, that might help you - for one thing you will more feedback from Google's point of view. In addition, Webmaster Tools now allows you to set a geographic target (and also to say "No target"). That step could put your mind at ease that you've done what you can.
Thanks tedster, i have never seen it. I just select US "geographic target" ...
You please also read my reply to Robert Charlton which makes me very nervous . Many thanks
You're probably up against a different set of competitors - and a bigger set - on google.com. You might want to check some of the other country-specific google sites to see how you're doing there, too.
You might want to check some of the other country-specific google sites to see how you're doing there, too.
hmm, just checked on a local rank checking site but seems only on PK :(
[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 5:43 pm (utc) on Nov. 26, 2007]
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As you both already have told that “you have covered the important areas”
Ok, so after that I also set my “geographic target” (US) on tedster,s suggestion.
I think now there is nothing remaining that we can implement or do that help. What I should do now I think its “waiting” and carry on getting links from US sites.
M I right tedster and Robert Charlton, or m I missing something else still?
Just keep in mind, as I said above, that google.com.pk results for "the web" and google.com results are not the same... and that it's likely that you will rank in those "web" results before you rank for the google.com "US" results.
Hmm, many thanks Robert Charlton for the help and suggestion
OK, let me wait and see what happens next
I just noted one more effective thing for implementation!
As you know Google also behave on “visitors” means I am getting more visitors from Pakistan and very less from other countries, hence Google believe that its PK site.
So what you think if I block my site from PK visitors ( PK IPs)?
Many many thanks in advance
*smirk*
That's a nice approach to visitors...
But rest assured, there's no relation, whatsoever.
...
My guess isn't that you don't rank well, rather your site being filtered because of problems with it, by scripts that are put to work only on Google.com.
The latest of these filters are usually rolled out at a slower pace to regional Google sites, even when they're in English mode, so... it might not be that your rankings aren't picked up, more like they are virtual. And as soon as Google Pakistan catches up your site will disappear from there just as well.
I'd so go through the site with a critical eye.
Especially looking for: spammy navigation, dupe/syndicated content, thin pages, co-occurrence... etc.
Whatever your problem is, it's on-site.
...
Any 301s from Pakistan ID Urls?
Would you please explain me what you actually mean by "301s from Pakistan ID Urls"?
Do you mean that if my site is like expample.com.pk that redirect to expample.com? if yes = No its a US hosted site with the age of 8 months
OR
Are you talking about IP?
Yeah, there must be SOME reason G sees the site as Pakistani, was it ever hosted/developed on a .pk IP?
The days of launching a new site and ranking immediately went a long time ago, even new pages on a well-established site can take a few months to filter through now.
YMMV!
But if the sites only 3 months old, it depends on how competitive the keywords are you're trying to rank for. Somtimes, you can pick up rank temporarily for a semi competitive keyword and then drop.
But I think the first suggestion will probably prove that Google is not taking your site to be of Pakistani origin, given hat you have already told us.
was it ever hosted/developed on a .pk IP?
HI glengara
No, not hosted in PK, but yeah developed on PK IPs from Pakistan. And yeah you please also read my first post.
*Important issue*: I used to searching on Google PK while log on the site Google account whole day.
developed on PK IPs from Pakistan
Do you mean that even though the server is physically located in the US, you are using an IP address allocated to a Pakistan block?
Do you mean that even though the server is physically located in the US, you are using an IP address allocated to a Pakistan block?
HI tedster
Yes, the server is in the US and we are in PK, hence we are using PK IPs while working/browsing the site whole day. But I think there is no such problem of IP …
beacuse
we are also optimizing more sites from the same office/same IPs that has very well-ranking on Google.com and normal on Google PK as of other countries.
The main reason we think personally is: "searching on Google PK while log on the site Google analytics account whole day" (i used to using my site that account which is used for Google analytics, sitemap etc. In the initial days of the SEO work I used submitting articles and site listing to directories, so for that I used to giving my site Google analytic account and was remaining log in whole day. I did such (log in and searching/working etc) at last 2 months. In these initial 2 months we got somewhat ranking on Google.com but after that suddenly dropped from Google.com and after 3 weeks appeared on Google PK. So since that we have been gradually getting ranking well on Google PK at very high competitive keywords and even now Google PK also shows the site ranking from “pages from Pakistan” option.
It was the whole story I told you, many many thanks for the help
The IP address of the website is what I was asking about, not the IP address of the ISP that you use to access the web. Your domain should be served on an IP address assigned to the US.
hmm, I personally have not idea about it but just asked from the site developer and he told yes that IP is a US IP and on the same server we have also 1 more site that is doing very well. many thanks tedster
