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June 27 - changes Part 3

         

Scurramunga

12:09 am on Jul 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< Continued from: [webmasterworld.com...] >

I reported a day or two ago that my index page had reappeared again after being lost on June 27- Well now it's disappeared again.

I use sitemaps and the sitemap.xml file seems to be downloaded every few days. When my page reappeared it was listed under "site:www.mydomain.com" but now it's gone once again.

[edited by: tedster at 7:34 am (utc) on July 5, 2006]

gabidi

9:42 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering ,how many of us affected use Google Analytics?
Maybe data from Analytics is used for ranking now?

Random i know , but I'm all out of ideas :/

camchoice

9:44 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm not using it, next ....

BillyS

10:25 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>Sounds like Google needs to "flush" the entire index and start over. They have apparently lost control of it.

I've been seeing some pretty heavy spidering by Google - anyone else? Maybe they are trying to fix that supplemental problem (incorrect titles...)

RichTC

10:29 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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europeforvisitors

What was the concencus regarding making your site W3C-compliant?, is it worth the effort?

On the basis that since BD was introduced a couple of our sites were trashed, i thought it worth trying to clean up a few sections and went the whole hog making a good number of pages W3C compliant - However, i wonder now its worth the effort?.

I cant see me making the whole site W3C because Google et al couldnt care less by the looks of it - The only thing ive noticed since cleaning a few pages is msn moving them! On the face of it this looks like a waste of energy

steerpikegg

10:53 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi everyone,

I'm new to the forum although I have been lurking for a while mainly following this thread.

I too have suffered since June 27 with 2 sites down from 800+ uvs a day to 50ish now and seemingly very little I can do about it an pray. These sites are my main income, so essentially google have suspended me without pay :(

What staggers me is the complete irrelevance of most of the results listed before my site - it seems like google's algo favours spam or page rank before any semblance of relevance to the query entered. How can they even call this a search engine of late.

I'm as guilty as everyone else for using google 90% of the time, but I'm seriously going to try to use other engines more often.

Blast that google toolbar and its convenience :)

reesh

11:00 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering ,how many of us affected use Google Analytics?

* I'm using Google Analytics both on a site that was heavily affected by the June 27 phenonema as well as on sites that were not affected at all. It would appear then that Analytics has nothing to do with it.

* I'm also using Google Sitemaps on sites that were both affected and not affected by the June 27 update, so using Sitemaps doesn't appear to have anything to do with it.

* One site that disappeared from the SERPs is about a year old. Another site of nearly the same age and which utilized almost identical physical design and SEO techniques was completely unaffected by the June 27 change. The only major difference between the two sites is that the negatively-affected site has outbound links to site which barely (it at all) fall within the same topic/neighborhood.

* On all the DCs which show negatively-affected results post June 27, the site: operator is totally whack for the affected site (high PR pages, including home page not showing in the top spots, with most pages being resigned to the supps).

* On one site that disappeared post June 27, it is now appearing as it did pre-June 27 for *some* (not all) primary and secondary keywords @ [64.233.189.107....] On this same DC, the site: operator is working properly with far, far fewer pages in the supplemental results.

What a fun ride this has been...not!

I raise my goblet to 64.233.189.107 propagating to the other DCs...<clink>!

Cheers (gulp)!

subsia

11:23 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see new result for my site.

June 27

site:mysite.com had lots of supplemental result on top
no sign of index.
Similar situation like others...

Current:

Site:mysite.com, all supplemental results are gone and my Index
is back on top, but The descriptions is strange, I see the description of
my "About Page" on my home page result.!
Never seen anything like this before.

I lost 9 other pages from main index.

I ranked one position up using my main keyword.

Cache is from 3 Jul 2006

kidder

11:52 pm on Jul 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There is no question that my two very oldest sites seem to be the hardest hit since the 27th. Both had been immune to the fluctuations of the past - rock solid. Some of these pages date back to about 2000.. I still think things will bounce back from this, I can't see how Google is going let things stand as they are.

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Well what else can you say :)

RichTC

12:02 am on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If only page rank was of value!

Im seeing dedicated pages about blue-widgets on one of our sites vanish from the serps where they previously ranked top 10 replaced by another page on our site thats not as detailed or with the only thing relevent to the search string being the link to the dedicated page - its bizzare!

Along the same lines im seeing directory sites overtaking our positions and in one instance the directory page concerned has no sites listed about the subject other than the one link which is to us! im tempted to get our site removed from that directory so that it has no information about the subject in the hope it drops from the serps

Google has lost it with this update imo

tedster

2:00 am on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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At this point, the same topics are being discussed in two threads. So to make it easy to follow along, let's hold the rest of the discussion in the Data Centers Watch [webmasterworld.com] thread.
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