.com site is #1 in UK search - not .co.uk

[stevelibby]

It appears that g has made few changes, my site is a .co.uk name, i have just noticed that in the uk search that the .com version of my site has appeared in number one position, also the site is completely unrelated to the domain name itself and its redirect, can this have an adverse effet on my site? should i report this g? what should i do?

[Robert Charlton]

Need more background to comment....

...the site is completely unrelated to the domain name itself and its redirect...

Would you give us a little history on this... how the site is unrelated to its domain name, and what do you mean by "redirect"?

And do the .com and .co.uk sites have the same or different content?

[stevelibby]

My applogies.
my .co.uk is related to the domain name, yet the .com is unrelated to the domain name.
also the .com has a redirect to a uk .co.uk, i have since got the person to change the redirect and its now a 123 holding page.
I have been under the impression that my site has been in some way penailised in the past by g and while i am working hard to rectify this problem, its has not appeared in number 1 spot for some time by searching the domain without .co.uk, my site has 2000 pages and ranked a pr4, so its not that bad.

[glengara]

"..my .co.uk is related to the domain name, yet the .com is unrelated to the domain name."

Are we talking chalk.co.uk and cheese.com both with similar content?

If the .com starts showing up I'd suspect there wasn't a 301 in place and there's a problem with the .co.uk

[stevelibby]

Im trying to get the .co.uk site back to number 1, is there anything that i can look for as to why i have a problem with it? Is it worth trying to buy the .com site?

[Robert Charlton]

Steve... again, I think you need to describe the situation more clearly than you have.

[stevelibby]

Right from the top
I own a .co.uk website which is widget related. Up to about 3 years ago it was doing extremely well in the rankings for various search terms. G penalised me for hidden text which i was unaware of at the time and i was removed from dmoz. dmoz is a sore subject and i wont go into any further detail, but then i dont think i need to as i m sure you all may have had some fun dealings with them.

The site was origally all html, i also at that time decided to switch to dynamic content to make life easier, being new to seo i did not do any redirects to the new pages, cant turn the clock back now, however any links that i find to my old hmtl page i create the html page and then redirect it now.

I have worked really hard to try and get this site back by working on and off page seo, most greyed pages have now come back since the pr update and all my sites went up by 1 so top page is a 4 next level are are 3 and below 2. But i am still struggling to get it in the top 10 in g all currently top 50, yet im in the top 10 on msn?

So in conclusion i think im going in the right direction.

However, At that time of issues the .com domain name was purchased and was redirected to an alternative .co.uk name. So as an example lets say my domainname is widget.co.uk they purchased the .com and then redirect the site to widgetstuff.co.uk, hope your with me, a few months ago i contacted the person with reference to buying this domain, unsuccessful attempt, however the person reduced the site to a domain hosting holding page.

Now, for a good 2 years now when you type the domain name it should as a rule of thumb come through with the domainname at the top, well mine has not and has lagged in about 30th position, however the .com is in 1st in the uk google pages.

my aim is to now get the domianname back into number 1 position.

i have run into a brick wall and not sure what to do next, the person offered a redirect from the .com to the .co.uk but will htis help or could it upset the apple cart? anyone with any ideas?

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 5:16 pm (utc) on Nov. 1, 2007]
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[Robert Charlton]

the person offered a redirect from the .com to the .co.uk but will htis help or could it upset the apple cart?

This could only be a short-term fix for you, and it really makes no sense for them, as a permanent permanent-redirect by them would tie up their domain... if it is a 301 redirect you're thinking about. A temporary 301 will do you no good.

Sounds offhand... for the [widgets] or [widgets.co.uk] searches, like you need to work on inbound links containing "widgets" (as well as others containing "widgets.co.uk") to your widgets.co.uk domain.

The .com will always outrank you, of course, for the [widgets.com] search.

[glengara]

"..well mine has not and has lagged in about 30th position ..... my aim is to now get the domianname back into number 1 position."

You'd want to work out what's keeping you down at 30 rather than worry about that .com IMO, would your domain name also be a major KW search term by any chance?

[stevelibby]

No, my domain is not a major kw. What things can i look at to try to get the bottom of it?

[glengara]

You could start by doing a allinanchor:keyword search on both "the web" and "pages from the uk", see where your site turns up and compare it to its' positions using 'normal" search.

If there's a wide discrepancy between "normal" and "allinanchor" results it usually indicates a problem...

[stevelibby]

wha hoooo!
It seems g has done an update and i am back, my hard work has paid off. Backlink update and i now re rank for kw`s that i used too and i am in 1st for domasin search, however ill hold my breath as i know g!

[glengara]

Robert must have had a word with Matt :-)

[stevelibby]

All i can wait for is for the dust to settle and see where g lands my site.