For allintitle and allinanchor I rank better than regular search

[stevelibby]

i have either got it wrong as normal or i need to be patient. I am developing 2 sites, now i have worked on on page seo and all appears to be happy. Now i am trying to work on off page seo.
i have checked the allintitle and i`m in position 3-10, i have just checked allinanchor and again position 3-10, yet i am in 25 position in the serps for the particular keyword? should i go back and rework on page seo?

[tedster]

Given your rank for the two specialized operators, it sounds like you may need more backlink juice to improve your regular ranking. Also, for on-page, make sure your copy contains enough related vocabulary and is not overly focused on just the keyword to want to rank for.

[stevelibby]

how long normally does it take for G to update / recognise new back links? i have a webmaster account and watching closely.
Should i re visit keyword density?

[BigDave]

for any of the "allin" searches, you aren't "ranked", it is just giving you a list. Compare the results for all the different allin searches and you will notice that the pages are in the exact same order, they have just removed every page that does not qualify for your specific allin filter.

[Arctrust]

It usually takes G about a week to pick up the links...

There used be a time when I would visit the site that had given me the link and just submit it to Google via the Submit a Site link... that used to work fine but G crawls much faster now.

After the week, my experience has been it takes an additionall - dont hold me to this - 2 to 3 weeks before G figure out how to re-rank the links (off page factors) with your content (on page factors)and decide where it goes.

However, I agree with "tedster" it seems that you need more Link Juice... so you're on the right track.

ARC

[tedster]

Should i re visit keyword density?

Keyword density today is a bit of an antique idea. It came from the pre-Google 90's, when search engines were essentially character matching machines. Stufy the top ten for almost any search today, and you can find keyword densities that are all over the map. So I'd suggest using naturally written copy and content, aimed to communicate well to your visitors. This gives you a natural amount of keyword occurence on the page - and also the presence of related vocabulary that semantic measurements expect to co-occur for any given keyword.

[stevelibby]

ok great, how is the best way to find the best link juice, there are many sites, whilst i realise that the less outbounds links on the page the better the juice. But how do i know the site is genuine juice?

[tedster]

We've got a whole forum dedicated to Link Development [webmasterworld.com] - much too big a story to give you quick answer that would be valuable.

The overall story, IMO, is to work for variety, and do NOT let PR be your guide. You want the widest variety you can muster in your backlink profile, even possibly including some off-topic sites, I'd say - and remember that today's PR0 website can be a big winner in the near future.