Title change tonight - How long to reflect in Serps?

[youfoundjake]

I have been chasing after a 2 keyword position for over a year, blue widgets.
most of the anchor text to the site is blue widgets
tonight I changed the title to blue widgets online
blue widgets is searched on google 40,000 times a month
blue widgets online is searched 1,800 times a month.
hopefully i'll rank higher for the second then the first since 1,800 is better then nothing. heeh

[youfoundjake]

OK, I will leave the title alone, it very well could be that my sudden increase in rankings is due to the title change, but just not relfected by the cache date. I will leave well good enough alone. As far as g1smd, I think he should have a blog like bretts' robots.txt file. Lots of information that guy has, tried to sticky him to tell him to post a blog or ebook, BUT ITS FULL! heeh

Thanks for the nudge Robert, I'm tring to be patient, just panicked at the thought that I made a change 5 minutes before the miracle and shot myself in the foot.

[youfoundjake]

K, a little update.
Google is now showing the updated page in the results, kind of.
Cached date is October 14th, change was made on Sept 1.
During that month and a half, I managed to jump up to 102 for my keyword phrase, now, I'm nowhere to be found. :(
I will heed Robert's advice and wait it out, but does it look like im changing the title back?
heeh

[Robert Charlton]

Jake - You don't mention whether you managed to get any inbound links to your page (from good quality, relevant pages that are independent of sites you own). This is key to ranking on anything competitive.

It's typical on Google to see an initial boost, but unless you get some links, it's also typical that your page will drift down. Keep in mind that everything takes a little time, so an external inbound will take a while to kick in.

I'd say that if you don't have a sense of which title would work better for you for a given phrase, you're severely handicapped in deciding what to do.

Take a look at this thread if you haven't seen it. It might be helpful to you....

Building the Perfect Page - Part II - The Basics
Developing an effective <title> element.
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[youfoundjake]

Robert, thanks for the link, yeah, I've read that, plus Brett's wonderful post about a successful site in 12 months,
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The domain is 2 years old, TBPR of 3, google shows 200 inbound links, yahoo had about 900 inbound, but I reported one of the sites as spam through their interface, and managed to loose about 500, since it was a site-wide link.
As for quality IBL's... eh, I've got 1 (heeh) .edu link, and thats about it. Everything else are links from articles I wrote. I have for the longest time felt stuck in a paradox, need quality links to rank high, need to rank high to get quality links.
On a side note, another thread going on right now about SERPS only showing upto 600 results for terms that return 47 million hits maybe affecting me a little more then I wish.
I seriously think that Google is recalculating where the site should go with the new title in reference to the whole grail search term, so I am planning on waiting it out for at least another month and a half since that's how long the difference in the cached pages for the index page was.