Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Has Google abandon the Toolbar or has the Person(s) responsible for the Toolbar gone on extended vacation?
I know the toolbar is nothing more than an ego boost for webmaster anymore, but some days I need an ego boost :)
I also have problems getting pages from the past 4 months indexed at all.
Their appeared to be an aborted attempt at a PR update a few weeks ago, and a few people have indicated that they got some PR, but the vast majority is still waiting.
I know I have been waiting for a PR jump from 0 to 3 to 4 on a new site, based on directory links from qualifed directory links (eg. Yahoo, BOTW, etc)
Same here - I think white is 0, but indexed, grey is not assigned nor indexed.
I have grey-barred pages that are indexed (and that rank at or near the top of the SERPs), so maybe the white bar means "PageRank calculated for Google's purposes but not yet displayed in the toolbar."
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All pages have pagerank, right? Except those which aren't indexed at all. TBPR is out of sync. Big time. If there was an update, it was aborted/canceled/full of bugs, but who knows...? I'll go further by asking... who cares?
The end.
Use site: / cache: / specific searches to see if it's indexed. That's your best bet right now.
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Who votes for us to NOT start another thread about this?
[edited by: Miamacs at 5:56 pm (utc) on Aug. 30, 2007]
All pages have pagerank, right?
Yes, but the PageRank has to be calculated before it can be transferred.
Like you, I don't worry about it. PageRank seems to be a pretty small part of the overall picture these days, and as for the toolbar, it's just there for entertainment as far as I'm concerned.
PageRank seems to be a pretty small part of the overall picture these days
I wish this was true, but there are still a bulk of webmasters that wont link to a new site until it gets some PR.
I wish Google would either update PR or get rid of the toolbar all together so everybody is on a level playing field, and the decission to link or not is made solely on content.
I've always assumed that the first response generates the gray bar and means "PR is not available", and the second is a white bar and means "PR is between 0 and 1".
I don't think that's true because, on one [city name] section of my site where I've added quite a few pages since spring, just about any page 1 of an article that was online before April, 2007 has a PR of 3 or 4, while everything since then has either the white or grey bar. I'm pretty sure that most PR for those articles is coming from internal links that have been around since the articles were written, so it would seem odd that PR would jump from less than 1 to 3 or 4 after a toolbar update.
To make things even more complicated, I've got some photo pages in that section of the site that have been around for years (though they've been forwarded to new URLs with 301s). Some are PR2, while others in the same series have grey toolbars. That seems really, really weird; I assume it just means that toolbar PR is screwed up.
I totally disagree.
I think G are almost certainly going to kill it off very soon. Who cares what page rank is from a user perspective when there's no consistency with regards quality etc.
Page Rank has been a joke ever since G started showing it and people started trying to manipulate it.
Kill it off today and put everyone out of their misery. The general public don't see it, don't know what it is and don't care.
"Darn it, it's still showing the correct, accurate values. Back to the drawing board, after a game of volleyball."
"Darn it, it's still showing the correct, accurate values. Back to the drawing board, after a game of volleyball."
Cute and cathartic, but off-base. The toolbar isn't showing the correct, accurate values in many instances (a fact that has some of our forum members upset, as you may recall from another thread on the topic).
