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Does Google identifies me as the owner of all my websites?

         

vivalasvegas

9:56 pm on May 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have a few websites. The 2 oldest ones were launched in 2002. For about 2 years I enjoyed great rankings in Google for these 2 websites until late 2004. Right now my Google traffic is almost zero and I don't have a clue why. I have PR5 for the 2 websites in question and most pages are indexed.

I also have a couple of affiliate websites I'm not very proud of. These websites sell a certain product and I have pages for each larger city. These pages are all the same except for city name. When I built them I didn't think I was doing something wrong. I wouldn't do this again and I'm soon to remove the duplicate content.

My concern: what if Google has identified all 4 websites as being mine and is now penalizing them all because of the duplicate content found on the 2 websites. I should mention here that the doorway type websites are indexed in Google with the duplicate content pages listed as supplemental results. Identifying me as the owner wouldn't be hard since I have some Adsense ads on all 4 websites (same account).

So, what do you think? I'm really worried that I might be on some blacklist and never be able to rank well again in Google for any website. Should I write Google and ask them? I keep working on my 2 legit websites, updating and getting new links but it all seems in vain. I rank in top 400 or so :(

Thanks for any input.

webdoctor

6:52 am on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My concern: what if Google has identified all 4 websites as being mine(...)

Is the WHOIS data the same for all four sites?

Are the sites hosted on the same server?

Do the sites link to each other?

vivalasvegas

11:56 am on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Webdoctor,

The whos data is the same.
Sites are on different servers and not linking between one another. However, I have an Adsense account with Adsense ads running on all sites.

Maybe I asked the wrong question. I guess it should read: Does Google punish all websites owned by one person for breaking their rules with just one website?

Green_Grass

1:08 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Maybe I asked the wrong question. I guess it should read: Does Google punish all websites owned by one person for breaking their rules with just one website? "

Yes .

Tinus

2:24 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Maybe I asked the wrong question. I guess it should read: Does Google punish all websites owned by one person for breaking their rules with just one website? "

I would say with Google search not at the moment. Maybe with big spammers it pays off to remove all sites but it is better for the SERPS to make dup. pages supplimental and keep pages with value inside the index.

cabbie

2:50 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Vivalasvegas don't be led astray.
Google doesnot penalise good sites because they are owned by someone with a banned site.
If your two good sites are about the same subject, it may be best to concentrate on just one of them and get some new quality independent links from outside your network to that site.

Green_Grass

3:17 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Identifying me as the owner wouldn't be hard since I have some Adsense ads on all 4 websites (same account). "

"Vivalasvegas don't be led astray.
Google doesnot penalise good sites because they are owned by someone with a banned site. "

What!?

Do I understand correctly ..

If the same adsense code is on 4 sites ...and if two sites follow TOS and two are against TOS? It is O.K.?

I really did not get this from the TOS or program policies ..

If TOS is not being followed on some sites of the OP , he is definitely in danger of losing his a/c with G...

As earnings accrue in one a/c , he can easily lose all his earnings...

BigDave

4:00 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If the same adsense code is on 4 sites ...and if two sites follow TOS and two are against TOS? It is O.K.?

I really did not get this from the TOS or program policies ..

If TOS is not being followed on some sites of the OP , he is definitely in danger of losing his a/c with G...

This forum, and the OP's question were about Google Search, not AS.

If you violate the AdSense TOS, the answer is that they will kick you out of AdSense, but that is different than search.

If the AdSense team sees flagrant violations of the webmaster guidelines they might report the SITE to the search crew, but I haven't heard anything about the search crew going after all the sites owned by one entity for that reason alone.

vivalasvegas

4:05 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks everyone and it's good to read optimistic thoughts on this.

Green Grass,
I only have Adsense on some pages, none on the duplicate ones. My concern was organic search, not Adsense.

vivalasvegas

4:16 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Trying to find a solution to this problem/mistake I made I'm thinking I have 2 options:

1) Remove all duplicate pages and wait for Google to notice this

2) Ask for a removal of my doorway websites from Google, then remove the pages, then submit a reinclusion request as these websites also have good content.

Tinus

5:53 pm on May 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A reinclusion request is only usefull if you are not indexed anymore. Google will tell you you are not penalized if the only problem is that your sites are ranking less then before. I would choose option one. Remove dup. content pages and build new content.
At the moment there is a lot of movement in the SERPS so what is today isn't tomorrow. So maybe time alone solves the problem of your good sites as well.