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Is Google DC Watching a futile activity?

If you feel that DC watching can help SEO then now's your chance.

         

colin_h

8:51 pm on Apr 28, 2006 (gmt 0)



Hi Fellow Forumers,

I'm looking for opinions and definately not trying to sway anyone to my way of thinking.

My question is "What use, if any, is gained by endlessly watching and reporting the differences on Google DC's. I've tried my best for the last year and have got nothing from this practice and I'm actually starting to think that the people who do it ... must never sleep.

Give me your opinions on this activity, good or bad. Just think, you may save new SEO's a whole bundle of boring trouble.

All the Best

Col :-)

Patrick Taylor

9:26 pm on Apr 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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... and watching threads about Google datacentre watching...? Does that rank?

colin_h

3:45 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)



Yep, you're right Patrick ... we all need help

All the Best

Col ;-)

undecided

6:04 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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colin_h,

I really don't remember how many years ago I started working from home. In the beginning it was difficult, there were people coming and going, phones ringing, radio and television as a perpetual distraction, and yes, the inherently evil possibility of on-line gaming.

Eventually, I decided I needed to emulate my concept of what a conventional author would do. While I work, I don't answer phones, I don't engage in conversation, and I don't do anything that distracts from the task at hand. I usually figure I need two to three hours of totally dedicated time, maybe four hours more of time where I can be distracted, then I'm done for the day.

The roundabout point is that most distractions will not get you the results you want. Doesn't matter if it's DC watching, or television watching, unless you can directly relate it to your immediate goals, you shouldn't do it.

M3Guy

12:15 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oi! I'm not in that DC club, in fact I've had the odd run in with our res expert on DC watching but we've kissed and made up now, right Reseller :) in fact I'm surprised we've not heard from him yet! As for whether its a worthwhile process I'm sorry I just don't see the point but each to there own

I can confirm that i don't hear from Tigger more than 20 or 30 times a day regarding his DC stats

Jon_King

2:17 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>We Live.We Learn..We Share..We Make Friends..
The Passion of Google Datacenters Watching

Flibbertigibbet

WW_Watcher

3:01 pm on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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<<Flibbertigibbet>>

ROFLMAO, Gets my vote for the post of the day!

Back to Working & Watching(but not the datacenters)
WW_Watcher

tedster

1:27 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Today the Data Centers Watch thread spawned a Home Page item -- a first notice and report of new handling for the Supplemental index. When it's fruitful, watching the Data Centers can give you this kind of observation and insight into the Google algo and its changes.

WW_Watcher

2:08 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Was g1smd's most excellent find a result of datacenter watching, or analysis of a search, serps, cache dates & contents?

IMHO <<Flibbertigibbet>> was not pointed to datacenter watching, or analysis, and it was not related to this that I found humor.

Back to Watching Webmasterworld & Hoping for more insite into g1smd's find, and as to what it means. I am not in the league that g1smd is in, but I could speculate (and even hope) that it is the beginning of G using its history to possibly determine the originator of data, to determine who was the original owner of scraped content. But I could be dreaming.

WW_Watcher
Edited to add, I cannot think of why else they would be keeping the old data. It is not really logical to return a page as search results, when the keyword(s) queried are not in the page, but only in the supplemental page's cache. It is beyond me, I leave it to the wiz kids of WW to figure it out, I will go back to lurking.

balam

4:27 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Point, by tedster:

Today the Data Centers Watch thread spawned a Home Page item[...]

Counterpoint, by Brett in said thread [webmasterworld.com]:

This was a pretty important find by g1smd and very worthy of it's own thread.

I must admit that I was somewhat disappointed to find something that sounds quite interesting (to myself) to be a smallish blip in the DC watching threads. As I post this, the aforementioned thread has 31 posts; only 7 seem to be relevant to the Supplemental issue, the rest being DC watching. I've seen better signal/noise ratios...

[...] saying something relevant [...]

2 cups of warm delicious Danish Brand Cappuccino!

;)

tedster

4:32 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've seen better signal/noise ratios...

I hear you on that, but a lot of SEO does involve pouring over reams of relatively noisy data until that magic moment when a previously unnoticed pattern jumps out of the picture.

reseller

8:23 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

Just wondering and an interim conclusion ;-)

Out of a community of maybe 100.000 members, only 13 members expressed that Google Datacenters Watching is a waste of time.

You 13 win...

Google Datacenters Watchers loose..

"Congrats" ;-)

Iguana

9:55 am on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"The only thing more pointless than DC watching is commenting in a thread about the pointlessness of DC watching"

Oscar Wilde

biGGie

12:52 pm on May 2, 2006 (gmt 0)



If you do a bit of reading between the lines while checking the different DCs, you can still spot very subtle trends. They are far from being as obvious as they once were but still can be found if you look hard enough.

In my case, it was nice over the course of a month or two spotting the effect of some small changes I made and if they impacted on the site positively or nagatively.

I also find the DC watching threads interesting, thanks to the regular posters, you know who you are! Yes they are sometimes a little off base, but like it or not it gives a good indicator major changes, common problems people are having and also plenty of speculation as to where things might be heading.

It all about keeping it in perspective with all the chopping and changing going. Trick is not to get too addicted to DC watching ;-)

digicam

9:48 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)



I think the big benefit is now the datacenter thread no longer hogs the first page constantly far more useful things are being discussed on WebmasterWorld, just looking at the list of discussion topics today shows far more quality.

I hope the thread does not reappear - and this one can die a greaceful death also:)

reseller

10:11 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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digicam

"I hope the thread does not reappear ...."

Just in case you have any observations on Google Datacenters, you wish to share:

Data Center Watch 2006 May 05
[webmasterworld.com...]

soapystar

10:38 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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as long as people stop posting to this thread it wont reappear. ooops!

Hissingsid

11:04 am on May 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

In those long and boring threads on DCs you occasionally see a blinding flash of insight which is useful. In particular the identification of test DCs and evaluation of what the chimps are playing with.

FWIW I have a hypothesis on the direction that I expect the Google algorithm to take in the next few months and years. Watching DCs tests this hypothesis and provides an early indication of movement resulting in a mixture of false hope and incredulity at the stupidity of some of the guys with their fingers on the algo knobs at Googleplex.

Watching DCs to try and find the one that suits your agenda in the vain hope that it will propogate is about as much use as collecting belly button lint, but some folks do both (at the same time) ;)

Sid

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