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That makes my drop seem minimal. I hope they don't take PR too seriously or they'll be running round with very high blood pressure for a few days!
Its been pagerank 0 for over a week now.
Sigh...
[edited by: tedster at 3:34 am (utc) on Aug. 16, 2007]
April 30, 2007
Adam_LasnikIf you've seen your PR adjusted to a non-zero number OR you've lost significant traffic, this thread does not really apply to you.
If, however, your PR has dropped to zero AND you've not seen any significant loss in traffic from Google, rest assured that this is most likely a PR-reporting (PR on Toolbar) error; while admittedly alarming at first site, it's nothing to worry about. The tail does not wag the dog in these circumstances.
PR drops to Zero for some long established sites [webmasterworld.com]
This problem is apparently continuing. We all wish Google would fix it, I'm sure.
Could Google be running out a complicated algo change to kill of PR on link selling sites? or killing off PR altogether? I'm intrigued but if PR is staying I wouldn't mind getting mine back.
It might not be your PR missing at all...
It's entirely possible only your *visible* (ToolBar PageRank) is missing.
(Only pointing out the semantics for readers, because my guess is 'real PR' is staying, even if the little lights on the toolbar (which Tedster started a real nice thread about) malfunction from time to time.)
Justin
Thanks.
I mean Google has updated its infrastructure about the same time last year. That had a huge impact on the frequency and quality of their updates in many areas, and now they're certainly capable of doing all calculations and spread the data in much less time, and yet... it didn't seem to speed up the publishing of PR.
Quite the contrary, it became less frequent, full of bugs, and now it even came to a halt while still in the process.
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Could be that with the update last year they hid supplemental pages' data so well in their own database network ( for the sake of scalable performance... ) that they are having a hard time working with them.
*: Or perhaps the new infrastructure didn't include any [new/integrated] means to export the TBPR and this feature still runs on legacy software/hardware...
If either would apply, I don't know if it's Google or us who should finally take the hint...
The Google Directory was updated yesterday for the first time in nearly 18 months. This may have an effect on which directory categories show in Google search results, and their positions.
It may also have a negative effect on sites that were in the old version of the Google directory but are no longer listed, and a positive impact on sites that are newly listed in the Google Directory... or will it?
Google Directory Discussion: [webmasterworld.com...]
There may be a time lag for the changes to ripple through. Will it be hours, or days, or weeks?
We now return you to your regular scheduled programme....
<edit>OK. You did.</edit>
Is it a technical issue... or is it intentional
I think it may be intentional - a tactic to disturb the paid link market perhaps?
Many buyer/sellers over on DP rely too much on TBPR, and sales slow to a crawl awaiting the update. Dragging it out like this has probably put a big damper on the number of sales for the last month.
I think it may be intentional - a tactic to disturb the paid link market perhaps?
Yeah the only reason I care is because I sell links on some sites. Right now I cant sell anything becuase everyone is waiting for the update. Silly really, PR dosent really seem to have anything to do with getting your site to the top.
Back then they had Big daddy to contend with, which caused the long delay.
Google has committed itself to the Toolbar page rank update.
I guess everybody must have taken August off for vacation down at the Googleplex.
Their was talk of an abortive update, a week or so ago, so you must have been one of the very few lucky ones that got PR.
As of today 7th September we have not seen a tool bar page rank update from google for 130 days.
The longest time period between updates in the past was 122 days between 19th Oct 2005 and 18th Feb 2006 at that time the green bar was updated and a backlink update carried out at the same time.
Now perhaps the update of that little green bar is not as important as it once was or is it just a case of google keeping us guessing longer?.
Clearly it looks like the serps are still dancing in some areas? so maybe we are half way through some kind of update who knows, but as we still have the green bar in play it would be nice to see it updated.
I wonder when they are thinking of updating it this time?
[edited by: tedster at 2:00 am (utc) on Sep. 7, 2007]
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As far as the toolbar PageRank, I definitely wouldn't expect to see it in the next few days. Probably not even in the next couple weeks, if I had to guess.
I'd post the link but it appears I can't :)
OK now I'm starting to wonder.
Is it a technical issue... or is it intentional
It's not either of those, it's that they have bigger fish to fry, and we should too :P
If I was in Google Management, I would toss it. It creates a lot more problems than its worth, for Google.
It would put an end to PR manipulation, and really cut down on the link request spam for us webmasters.
Only webmasters use it anyways, and it is either use for evil, or for webmaster ego boosting. Joe Public could care less about the toolbar.
On the other hand, it they kill the PR toolbar, it will be a boom for companies that measure traffic such as Alexa and Compete. However it is alot easier to game Alexa than it is Google, so it may not be worth much.
Then again they may decide to only update 1 or 2 times a year as a compromise.
I don't think it is a technical issue or a priority issue, or MATT would just tell us.
I don't think it is a technical issue or a priority issue
Actions always speak louder than words. Their resources are basically unlimited so the lack of update is by choice.
