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Reseller,
Having looked at these dc's in some detail, I have to disagree with you (tho glad you're making a comback!).
Because of major changes to a site I have in the OCT-FEB period, I can pinpoint the vintage of the index quite easily (and confirm the site specific results with others I am familiar with). What I see on these dc's is an index made up of ancient results (circa AUG 2005) with some additions from FEB or so.
If this truly is the result of the carnage of the switch to BD then Google has accomplished nothing in the FEB-15 to current timeframe.
If as you say, Google knows exactly what they're doing, what they are apparently trying to achieve is to augment the AUG-05 index with a few new pages. If you mean Google intended to "break down" the entire index and rebuild it "live" - unlike in the past where more or less finished updates rolled onto all dc's over a 5-7 day period - then I might agree. What I can't see is the reseller frindly ® dc's being anything but yet another interim step. The difference is, I see the process as scambling to try and fix an unanticipated scru-up, you see it as an deliberate plan.
Either way, I'm counting the days until Microsoft rolls out their new product as Google is ripe for the taking ... takes awhile for the public to turn against a SE but there certianly is precedent (remember when you couldn't turn on your TV without seeing ads for Lycos?).
From a webmaster point of view, the ideal world is MSN, Google, Yahoo with 30% market share each.
[edited by: tedster at 10:32 pm (utc) on April 6, 2006]
You may be onto something regarding the link age filter giving a bit more weight to the authority sites, but it could also be that as a lot of authority sites had pages going supplemental some of them now returning, it could be that the internal links from them are now starting to come into the index hence pushing the authority pages.
Of course anything COULD change at any moment but its a certain improvement over the previous few weeks in the sectors we watch.
So just maybe things are on the up? mind you i shouldnt tempt faith they will probably F'ck it up again by next week!
More like almost 18 months, and still no sign of a fix.
Yes, I was probably being generous with the 60 weeks.
Hmmmz - "no sign of a fix" - perhaps some - but no fix which is the worrying thing after all this time and infastructure change.
No I felt it in spades from September to March when it killed my peak season.
But I DO think this past 7 weeks or so has been among the worst public failures I have seem with Google (being unable to reconcile the AUG index they used to test BD with the current index without turning half the index supplemental and repeatedly appearing to fail).
I mean regardless of how well/badly me or anyone else is doing, the Google results are cr@p.
Of course there are DCs that don't look very pretty. However, there are some encouraging signs on few of the DCs. For example I see here more relevant sites for my test search query
[64.233.171.99...]
[64.233.171.104...]
[64.233.185.99...]
[64.233.185.104...]
I wish to see the data of such DCs migrate to the rest. Maybe that is exactly what will happen, who knows ;-)
"these seem to me slightly old, reseller ;-)"
I'm slightly old too, ya know. Maybe thats why I like them :-)
Don't know if anyone saw this overnight, but one of my "barometer" sites (www.cnn.com) lost 1.1 million indexed pages ... However, as of 15 minutes ago, they have gotten 500,000 of them back ... WOW!
Good morning Folks
I find it rather difficult to draw any conclusion about anything on the DCs right now.
Just about every day I see some new serps regarding my test search query.
I.e the new infrastructure isn't stable yet at all. Accordingly, we might post our daily remarks and keep watching, but shouldn't rush to issue any final judgement or conclusion yet. Everything is still possible to happen ;-)
Not one DC has fixed the site ranking problems for Canonical url sites on the whole.
Sites which had there PR pushed down to 0 due to the problem have had the PR come back, to me sites which had the problem no longer have the non-www/www issue (although I am sure there are some about) - but The penalty they applied to these sites for having the non-www indexed is still in place.
Until/If these come back (As PR has come back - sometimes I am optomistic they will) then I dont think Big Daddy infastructure has either worked or been fully applied.
I agree with you. They really need to focus on one specific thing instead of covering every different thing at once. I can understand that they need to shuffle things around and thats fine, but with the canonical issues that have stagnated the serps in my area, it seems they are still having issues they neeed to attend to.
I am seeing something new with our site.
Having fully recovered our pages in the index together with associated ranking I was surprised to see that ALL our internal pages went PR0 yesterday or the day before.
The homepage remains PR6 on the toolbar but all other pages previously varying from PR6 to PR3 have gone to PR0 in the toolbar.
All pages continue to rank as well as they did when the PR was in the toolbar.
This seems to be a new and strange problem?
"The homepage remains PR6 on the toolbar but all other pages previously varying from PR6 to PR3 have gone to PR0 in the toolbar."
They call it at the plex "Dynamic PageRank of Internal Pages" :-). For no logical reason, sometimes pages go from PR0 to PR5-PR6-PR7 etc... Other times pages go down from PR7-PR6-PR5 to PR0.
It could be a part of an operation to fix the canonical issue. It could be that its part of testing new SpamRank factors. It could be......
Does anybody have the same problems?
It was a bit of bonus traffic and $$$ for a couple of weeks and got of few new IBLs out of it :-)
Within the last 4 days I have lost almost all indexed pages
strange but true for me too, PR remains unchanged
"Within the last 4 days I have lost almost all indexed pages (except main page and Supplementals)."
Has that happened on all datacenters or just on few specific ones?
Thanks!
I think at all datacenters. Maybe there is one specific....
Pls try on these 3 DCs and tell us what you see.
[64.233.171.104...]
[64.233.179.104...]
[64.233.187.104...]
Thanks.
Those three show SERPS with lots of pages that havent been mixed in yet. So they are not fully updated serps results yet imo
"reseller
Those three show SERPS with lots of pages that havent been mixed in yet. So they are not fully updated serps results yet imo"
I haven't chosen the 3 DCs for their quality, but just to see whether the problem is acrooss several DCs ;-)
No changes :-(
"@reseller
No changes :-( "
Few days from now, you get your smile back, hopefully. Who knows what will happen next during these everfluxing days :-)
It's almost like a religion now... all we have left is our faith.
"Few days from now, you get your smile back, hopefully. Who knows what will happen next during these everfluxing days :-)"
I´m hoping you have right!
My guess is that they are fixing the SERPS in batches, not all terms at once.
just checked, its across the DC's
[edited by: rkhare at 7:29 pm (utc) on April 14, 2006]
Anyone else having this problem with lower number of pages beign indexed the last few days?
