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Reseller,
Having looked at these dc's in some detail, I have to disagree with you (tho glad you're making a comback!).
Because of major changes to a site I have in the OCT-FEB period, I can pinpoint the vintage of the index quite easily (and confirm the site specific results with others I am familiar with). What I see on these dc's is an index made up of ancient results (circa AUG 2005) with some additions from FEB or so.
If this truly is the result of the carnage of the switch to BD then Google has accomplished nothing in the FEB-15 to current timeframe.
If as you say, Google knows exactly what they're doing, what they are apparently trying to achieve is to augment the AUG-05 index with a few new pages. If you mean Google intended to "break down" the entire index and rebuild it "live" - unlike in the past where more or less finished updates rolled onto all dc's over a 5-7 day period - then I might agree. What I can't see is the reseller frindly ® dc's being anything but yet another interim step. The difference is, I see the process as scambling to try and fix an unanticipated scru-up, you see it as an deliberate plan.
Either way, I'm counting the days until Microsoft rolls out their new product as Google is ripe for the taking ... takes awhile for the public to turn against a SE but there certianly is precedent (remember when you couldn't turn on your TV without seeing ads for Lycos?).
From a webmaster point of view, the ideal world is MSN, Google, Yahoo with 30% market share each.
[edited by: tedster at 10:32 pm (utc) on April 6, 2006]
Since I have nothing to loose I have removed the product description from the product pages therefore eradicating the vast majority of my duplicate content. When the product pages are re-indexed I will tell you if there is any ranking change. Should be interesting either way :)
"Very dirty results. Time to do the laundry Google. Sort yourselves out."
What do you see when apply filter=0 on the same query?
Probably not, but a guy can dream....
Hi Folks
If what I see now on the DCs happened during April last year, I would have said for sure that an UPDATE underway. However, under the present new infrastructure, I would call it Major Reshuffling, unless Brett announce something else :-)
On a side note. It seems that Matt Cutts didn't approve calling the Reseller Friendly DCs by the name "Emmy Datacenters". As a result he phoned today the folks at the plex and asked them to change the data of the said DCs to be Reseller Unfriendly.
Goodby my gorgeous DCs (:(
PS. If you see much spam and 100s of off-topic comments on Matt's blog the coming days, you don't need to guess who have done it :-)
I'm doing some different queries.
With or without &filter=0, there wasn't much difference for the one set of keywords I did.
Result No. 4 for example was full of keyword stuffing.
So basically, if I want to have top 10 results, I need to keyword stuff.
No thanks, my users like reading sentences not keywords.
"reseller friendly DC's were friendly to me too, but i see no changes. reseller are you serious those DC's going unfriendly to you"
For around 30 minutes, I saw an "earthquake" on the DCs. And my friendly DCs just vanished.
They are back now to be friendly, but with some strange unrelated sites appearing at top 10 of the serps. For example a site talking about materials and polymers, and another site talking about Printable Coupons, when I run a query related to online advertising. Those two sites shouldn't be there at all. So we are talking about less relevant search results.
I still think that a major reshuffling taking place. On and off....
I guess things are changing very fast this weekend. Something major is taking place. Lets wait and see ;-)
Hmm. My spam-o-meter is picking up a high density of potential spam peaking around the San Diego area this weekend. Any thoughts on why the spam-o-meter is measuring such high readings?...
Looks like by the end of the weekend, the density will be going back down though. Very strange...
If this is not another joke....?
For example, one of my sites is a product review type site, and is driven entirely by fresh content from user reviews, independent lab reports, etc. All reviews, etc. are manually reviewed, and either approved, or denyed (done on a daily basis for freshness).
The following results are from site:mydomain.com checks on each of 45 different DCs for the aforementioned site:
64.233.183.99 - added 295 pages (showed 551 yesterday, showing 846 today)
64.233.183.104 - added 294 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.102.9.99 - added 294 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.102.9.104 - added 294 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.102.11.99 - added 294 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.102.11.104 - added 294 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.249.85.99 - added 295 pages (showed 551 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.249.85.104 - added 295 pages (showed 551 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.249.87.99 - added 294 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.249.87.104 - added 294 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 846 today)
66.249.93.99 - added 275 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 827 today)
66.249.93.104 - added 275 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 827 today)
216.239.59.99 - added 274 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 826 today)
216.239.59.104 - added 274 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 826 today)
64.233.161.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.161.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.167.99 - lost -81 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 471 today)
64.233.167.104 - lost -81 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 471 today)
64.233.171.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.171.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.179.99 - added 727 pages (showed 543 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.179.104 - added 727 pages (showed 543 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.185.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.185.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.187.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.187.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
64.233.189.104 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
66.102.7.99 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
66.102.7.104 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
72.14.203.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
72.14.203.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
72.14.207.99 - lost -80 pages (showed 551 yesterday, showing 471 today)
72.14.207.104 - lost -80 pages (showed 551 yesterday, showing 471 today)
216.239.37.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.37.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.39.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.39.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.51.99 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.51.104 - added 718 pages (showed 552 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.53.99 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.53.104 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.57.99 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.57.104 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.63.99 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
216.239.63.104 - added 724 pages (showed 546 yesterday, showing 1270 today)
Obviously, the DCs that concern me are:
64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
as they are showing significant number of pages that were removed from the index. All other DCs are showing excellent, though random at times, increases in indexed pages.
Thanks for a great DCs Watching report DELUXE!
So whats happening today could be the "pumping" of additional data and testing of new filters and much much more ;-)
You may well be correct about the data pumping. Guess we will have to wait and see.
BTW. Also noticing increased Mozilla Googlebot activity all day so far ...
66.249.87.99 both showing a 44% decrease in indexed pages
66.249.87.104
64.233.167.99 both showing a 174% increase in indexed pages
64.233.167.104
All others showing either no, or minimal (less than 1% +¦-) movement.
Maybe this is starting to level out a bit, which would be nice :-)
I see some SERP's filtering in and out right now accross various DC's that actually look really good
Did they look anything like 64.233.187.104?
also, the way I tell that a dc is showing the same results as 64.233.187.104 is that the #1 website, which has been #1 for about 10yrs, has its title pulled from its DMOZ listing. All other dc's show the current Title that is in the code - which the site owner changes every now and then. My websites title is also pulled from its DMOZ listing in 64.233.187.104. My site has been in the top 10 in the 64.233.187.104 dc for the last 3 weeks - in all others it hanges around 80 (just out of sandbox after a year - or I guess its still in?)
"..My websites title is also pulled from its DMOZ listing in 64.233.187.104. My site has been in the top 10 in the 64.233.187.104 dc for the last 3 weeks - in all others it hanges around 80 (just out of sandbox after a year - or I guess its still in?)"
As to titles that 64.233.187.104 continue to pull from DMOZ, I wrote on 24th March 2006 a post:
Is It a Possible Bug on Some BigDaddy DCs?
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[webmasterworld.com...]
And few kind fellow members posted comments about the subject.
Two major groups, and one Class-C with the "wierd stuff".
When you say that you are seeing differences, what exactly are you looking at? Do you mean differences in index movement for your sites, or a "barometer" site, such as Yahoo, CNN, etc?
I still don't see any movement whatsoever today across any of the DCs in any of my observations.
Movement observed on the following DCs:
* Please note that I refer to # of indexed pages reported on the same site I mentioned earlier
66.249.87.99 81% increase (was 454; now 820)
66.249.87.104 81% increase (was 454; now 820)
Several others with minor movement of +1%
Important to note: First time in several days that movement across the board was all positive. No DCs reporting loss of indexed pages as of 11:00 PM
66.249.87.99 81% increase (was 454; now 820)
66.249.87.104 81% increase (was 454; now 820)
Quite the opposite on a site I'm monitoring :
66.249.87.99 decrease (was 238k ; now 53k )
66.249.87.104 decrease (was 254k ; now 53k )
I estimate that we have around 48k of actual webpages. The figures Google is quoting seem "wild" and i don't know why they record the inflated amount.
Pages are in the serps, but our results are way down on normal as we go through the re index process.
PR is holding on front page. All internal pages show "white".
44 Dcs showing indexed page increases, ranging from 1.1% to 4.5%
64.233.183.99: is showing a 41% decrease, but I have a feeling that this will change later today (same trend as 2 days ago)
By the way, my default datacenter is 72.14.203.104. This too shows the same result. A happy news for me.
Any improvements in your site positions?
Google seems to inflate these page no's at times [ i don't know what the inflation includes ]
"By the way, my default datacenter is 72.14.203.104. This too shows the same result. A happy news for me."
Very kind lovely gorgeous DC which brings happy news to resellers worldwide too. May the sun shine on 72.14.203.104 for ever ;-)
