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Listing problems with flattened version of once-framed site

updated pages not getting in the index after redesign

         

whitters

3:46 pm on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Firstly, apologies if this is not the correct place to post this query - if this is the case, please point and prod me (gently) in the correct direction.

The Problem

I have written a website for my friend, and up until late April, it was designed using Frames (I can hear you laughing from here). I have since re-designed the site using CSS, DIV's etc etc etc, and improved the whole site, validating with W3C etc. However... Google still has the old site in its cache (or doesn't, if you know what I mean - frames!). Anyway, previously, I had submitted a sitemap for the old version of the site. The new version of the site uses the same filenames as the old site, but the content has obviously changed. I have deleted and re-submitted a sitemap, but Google still doesn't seem to want do crawl my site. Is it getting mixed up with the fact that the URL's are the same? Any advice accepted with grateful thanks!

Regards,

Whitters (the Confused)
England, UK

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 5:34 pm (utc) on June 5, 2007]
[edit reason] edited to work with changed title [/edit]

tedster

5:52 pm on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Does that site have some links pointing to it from other domains?

g1smd

11:01 pm on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Run Xenu Linksleuth over the site and make sure that the navigation is sound.

Make an HTML sitemap from the Xenu report and upload that. Link it from your main page and a few others.

Ensure that your site only retuurns "200 OK" for www or for non-www and not for both. Ensure that the other one returns "301 Moved".

Make sure that several relevant external sites link to you, preferably to some of your more important internal pages.

Check again in a month.

whitters

8:56 am on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Many thanks for your replies:

@tedster

A couple, as yet, but probably not enough yet! The age old question (I feel) is how to get them to do that? Are you talking about registering the site on local business directories etc? I have attempted to add the site to ODP.

@g1smd

I'll have a look for Xene Linksleuth

How do I check what the HTTP response is? (sorry!) I only have (I think) www.sitename.com

As for the links - see my response (above) to tedster

A month? Wow - I thought the fact that the new (flattened) site had been in place for more than a moth would mean that Google would have re-trawled the site! :(

whitters

2:08 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Oh, just an update.. Xenu reports all green and orange on the site (orange for javascript popups) - so that's good!

On the obtaining links front, is there a feeling from the majority of people about the best way to acheive this? I'm thinking about the "Social Bookmarking" route. Good? or Bad?

Looking forward to your thoughts,

Jon (Whitters)

g1smd

6:15 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Add the Live HTTP headers extension to Mozilla or Firefox to see the response codes for the URLs on your site.

You need to avoid "duplicate content" issues.

Make sure that your link to the home page links back to "www.domain.com/" or to "/" and not to "index.html" instead.

Robert Charlton

6:31 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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On the obtaining links front, is there a feeling from the majority of people about the best way to acheive this?

whitters - WebmasterWorld has a whole forum specifically for the discussing strategies of obtaining links...

Link Development
[webmasterworld.com...]

I recommend that you take a look in that forum, and that you read a bit in their library before you post.

You might also take a look at one of the classic WebmasterWorld posts, in the Google Archive...

Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone
[webmasterworld.com...]

Implicit in that thread is the idea that you need to create content that's actually worth linking to in order to attract links.