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On one of my searches this morning, I found a site with an expired domain above my site in the results. That just ain't right!
[edited by: tedster at 5:58 am (utc) on Nov. 8, 2006]
What's the best way to get out of the "Club"
If a page URL shows supplemental can i change the content and get it back?
or must i create a new URL with unique content and wait for it to be indexed via the home page [ assuming the home page hasn't gone supplemental ]
Is this something others have noticed?
From 20k uniques a day to what looks like 1k today.
Thank god for MSN and Y.
I haven't had to lay anyone off yet but unless there's a change next week it's going to happen.
site:sitea 4,000 supplementals
site:siteb 3 pages, main page and 2 supplementals that are pages that haven't existed for over a year!
i am wondering that does the page rank update is still going on because my site some times shows pr 4 on the next day when i checked it shows pr 0 is it relatd with the BIG daddy or a page rank update ....
help ..,.
I gues everything is relative ... i would love to have 1K reverals from G per day.
I find it odd in my sector the sites affected by this - it makes me wonder if a group of competitors have grouped together to try and nobble a number of competing sites?
What did google do with say sites sent to say spam at big daddy google? (ref Matt Cutts blogg) did they review the sites or just assign them to the list of go supplemental for example, it would be a handy way to get rid of competing sites if they didnt review them? Or was this supplemental move deliberate on Googles behalf to nobble a number of authority sites to test if adwords income goes up as a result?
Perhaps im making 2 and 2 = 22 but i find it odd that certain large sites have not had an issue with this and others have. I also struggle to believe that a company the size of google can make this kind of blunder and damage so many websites?
I will see what next week brings but on the basis that i see no change wonder if thats it - thats the big dadddy update - after all what do google care if they crush a number of sites?
If google take no action over this or we see no change then we should look to support Yahoo and msn - We have been very loyal to google over the years spending vast amounts on adwords and this is how we are treated, they have the major share of the market as a result of webmaster support and this is how they repay that!.
Lets see what next week brings but it doesnt look good for those in this supplemental hell
Iīm not so pessimistic. The Mozilla-Bot is still very active und crawls 500 pages in 8-9 minutes and over 50k pages per day. Why should these pages donīt get back into the index?
I believe still that the supplemental hell is a bug und Google will fix this soon.... I donīt think that all pages will come back with old rankings in 2-3 days, but on a medium-term and long-term basis Iīm optimistic.
Since no one is saying this, I am extremely worried.
It's my birthday today (21 again) so be nice.
Outside the top 10 im not checking all sites so cant know but a good number have gone supplemental by the looks of it.
The only strange thing is that clicking on the cached page, I get nothing.....
but the pages are now in the databes AND they are ranking as supposed.....
In BD, just the first 25 results are non-supp.
Edit: I forgot to mention that there are 800 results for non BD, and 67,500 for BD, for the same website.
However, given the scale of the problem, possibly affecting something over 10% of websites (from the guesstimates received earlier, thanks guys!) I have every faith that the situation will be resolved next week.
I do have to say though, why do Google keep serving up BD data centres when they know there is a problem affecting so many sites? Why could they not just serve up the none BD data centres until the reindexing is complete? That would take the pressure off many worried businesses right now.
In several BD databases now it seems everything recovered for me.
In which BD datacenters are you showing recovery in?
If you see your site recover, please let us know what google datacenter your querying.
Still seeing the same number of supplementals as on BD DC's. Maybe they are doing changes in waves, and it hasn't hit my sector yet....then again.....!
I am losing faith...
Better late than never. I lost faith some time ago in Google's ability to allow legitimate sites to recover after algorithmic downrankings.
I now believe it's the (small) exception not the rule and relates mainly to the fact that approximately 97% of new websites are junk sites trying to spam them. For this reason they allow very high collateral damage, thinking it's better to kill off a few good sites rather than let in another 100 spam sites.
They get tons of spam complaints and reports and this affects the bottom line potential for the company, but I doubt they get many complaints (except from owners of omitted sites), that say "hey, I got 3 good sites but I bet there is another, better site you failed to list!"
