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Supplemental Club: Big Daddy - Part 3

     

icedowl

3:21 pm on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< continued from: [webmasterworld.com...] >

On one of my searches this morning, I found a site with an expired domain above my site in the results. That just ain't right!

[edited by: tedster at 5:58 am (utc) on Nov. 8, 2006]

quarryshark

8:49 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm out of sup jail! (for now).
Confirmed on live g.com
216.239.51.104
64.233.179.104
and
66.249.93.104
Hope is sticks.
Check you sites, this may be good news for all.
Now I just need to get back in the serps.

[edited by: quarryshark at 9:00 pm (utc) on Mar. 11, 2006]

rookiecrd1

9:00 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same here for my site on those DC's. I do notice that I only have about 10% of the pages I once had indexed though. Hopefully this is a good sign and it just takes some more crawling by google.

yves1

9:04 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same here. It looks like my pages (all gone except home and supplemantal pages since last week end) are coming back on big daddy with their original ranking (for example on 66.249.93.104, but not only).

However, not all of them are back yet. But it seems we're on the right way.

quarryshark

9:07 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Keeping my fingers crossed for everyone!
More need to chime in.
Looks encouraging, but the more confirmation, the better we can be assured that problem is fixed.

leeds1

9:10 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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been like that for nearly a week - nothing new

try: [64.233.161.147...]

still dead and buried

yves1

9:16 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Agreed. Not all the big daddy DCs show the recovery yet. The one you mention is not fixed yet. But I believe it's on the way.

smokeybarnable

9:19 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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it won't last..mine comes back every day at the same time for two hours then disappears.

Pirates

9:25 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



I think we are starting to see a return to normality. Big thanks to GG. Don't be too hard on Google there may be other factors going on.

jdancing

9:42 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Looks like the fix is rolling out. Or should I say the big daddy fix is being removed?

optimist

9:42 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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1/5th of our pages are indexed there, still not all.

rookiecrd1

9:47 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yeah I'd say about 1/8th of our pages are indexed there now, but it's still better then (1 + all supplementals). Hopefully those will increase soon.

asher02

9:57 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Some pages back to index but still nowhere to be found on serps...hope this is the next stage otherwise nothing has been fixed.

Pirates

10:05 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



Pretty sure its a fix, Matt Cutts posted he'd had about five hours sleep in last few days,thats how hard they been working. I just wanna put something on record about people who are so quick to post the end of Google and how MSN is the future.

Try checking out Bill Gates record with internet partners. Looksmart, Keywords, and even on Windows there partnership with IBM. If you think that MSN would give a #*$! your site had been deleted from free serps let alone work themselves to death to fix the problem and update us as they do I think you should just look at there history.

Compare there behaviour then to people like aol, ebay and google.

Abigail

10:12 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So nice to see some of you are starting to see the light of day - I think it's safe to say, the nerves are getting pretty raw for the rest of us that are waiting to claw our way back from supplemental h*ll.

zeus

10:19 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Im just waiting for a REAL UPDATE all this BD stuff I can not use that for anything, that are only flux on what they are working on, as many sees supplemental results, rotating ranks, lost pages, you can not depend on what you see there, wait for the UPDATE.

icedowl

10:25 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On 216.239.51.104, 64.233.179.104, 66.249.93.104 and 64.233.161.147 I'm still seeing mostly supplemental results with total results that are nearly double of what they ought to be. Still in SH at those DC's. I note also that those DC's all show "English" beneath the Google logo.

I'm seeing far better results on my local DC for today (72.14.203.99). The number of results returned is closer to actual site pages, and most (but not all) of the supplemental results actually should be supplemental (dead pages that were removed over a year ago but keep showing up like a bad dream).

I have noticed that the older, larger sites in my sector have been hit far worse than my own site. They are down to just the home page before repeating "the search with the omitted results included". One of those sets of results ends at around 100 pages for a site that is larger than 10,000 pages even when "repeated". I'd hate to be in their shoes, although my own aren't fitting quite right at the moment.

Pirates

10:26 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



Its gonna happen but be patient as I think other factors have complicated this. As GG said it would be a new crawl and you should see a fresh cache date in the result of most pages returning I think.

[edited by: Pirates at 10:36 pm (utc) on Mar. 11, 2006]

CathyM

10:34 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My site is also back from supplemental on 216.239.51.104 with about 30% of the pages returned. The good news is that rankings are the same as what they were before the supplemental problem.

quarryshark

10:44 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My pages are still buried in the serps, but at least there is hope now.
As the nondeserving sites come out of supplemental index, hopefully some of the old placement can be regained, or at least become competitive again.
Lets see if quality rises and some of the crap gets kicked out this time.

Grinler

10:46 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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At the following datacenters (only checked these)

64.233.187.99
216.239.51.104
64.233.179.104
66.249.93.104
72.14.203.99

I am now showing active content. Nowhere near what I had before, but definitely better than no content. 41,000 pages compared to 419,000.

I would like to say that this bug effectively destroyed any rankings that I have worked so hard on in the past 2-3 years. So if you think the rankings will come back with the fix, hate to disappoint you. My pages are ranking nowhere near if at all compared to previously. If you are seeing your rankings restored, then I will only pray I get them as well. Does not look that way yet though.

Whitey

10:50 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What I'm waiting for is a universal it's fixed and stable from GG or Matt Cutts ... then look at the reaction from the community

All the data centres we are monitoring have varied results ..... but again there is an appalling quality of results and relevance, particularily on the regional filters.

Without doubt, at this stage Yahoo is better and surfers would have to switch to them to get relevant results .... they simply have no choice, so Google need to mindful of this. People have to switch.

Some of the Google alteration strategies may be too fast for the website community .

We're still out ..... only the home page is not supplementary .... so there's still hope

powerstar

11:14 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Some pages return but still most pages are supplemental. Anybody see full recovery?

trinorthlighting

11:21 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I do not think we will every see a full recovery...

steveb

11:38 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There is no fix per se. You are just being crawled and indexed. Read the previous comments from Google Guy and about this phenomenon in general. As you pages are crawled, they'll be reindexed. That is how it works. Any supplemetals you had are still there in the background.

RichTC

11:57 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Im not seeing much change yet i have to say but if changes are being rolled out then maybe by Monday we will have a better idea.

Im not convinced yet of a full return pre the blunder thats for sure

yves1

11:59 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As you pages are crawled, they'll be reindexed. That is how it works. Any supplemetals you had are still there in the background.

I agree that supplementals are still there. What I am seeing is pages that had dissappeard one week ago are now coming back in the index.

But I am not sure that this come back is the effect of recent crawl. The cached versions of these pages, as well as their titles and snippets, are one or 2 weeks old. It looks to me like some of them are the result of crawls that happened before the problem occured.

bobmark

11:59 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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At this point, Grinler, there is nothing approaching a final index on these dc's (at least not on Saturday).

Links are way out of date (circa last fall) tho the index contains some slight merging of the ancient BD index with newer results.

watercrazed

1:24 am on Mar 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
I am seeing the pages return to about 450 out of 3,000. Interesting points the site:mydomain now return 560 used to return 10,000 correct count about 3000. The last 10 shown with out omitted are supplemental total 100 are supplemental. No indicatation on ranking improvements YET.

watercrazed

2:17 am on Mar 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Rankings are back on some key phases maybe a little lower but just in the top 20 instead of top 5 to 10.

Should improve with the addition of more pages. An example keyphase returned a page with one ranking did not use to rank this high for that term other pages were seen as more relevant.

quarryshark

2:33 am on Mar 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have 479 of my 710 pages back, no supplementals listing now on all of the DC's I checked including the BD's
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