Site with Video Clips dont show up on G, Search

I am aware that Text is key for Google search...

[dailypress]

I have a website full of entertainment videos.
I put Google ads, but it cant figure out the embedded video since there isnt much text.
All the video links are on one side of the page (that is pretty much all the text on the page) and therefore Google cant figure out what the page is about.
I used Titles/Headers and Meta Tags. My site has finally been ranked (only the index page and the main directories! not all pages have been indexed)
When I google search the Title name my site does not show up although it has been ranked (3/10)! Any suggestions?

Do you think if I add 2-3 line text/description on the video clip, it would have a major impact?

[edited by: tedster at 7:59 pm (utc) on May 14, 2007]

[dailypress]

Since I haven’t receive many google and in general search engine referrals with barely any text, I was thinking of transferring some traffic to a new site where visitors can post threads similar to a forum but without needing to login or register. (Hopefully lots of text)

What do you think about installing a message board and transferring lots of traffic to make sure the message board is live? Do you think this site has potential?

[edited by: tedster at 8:06 pm (utc) on May 14, 2007]

[Quadrille]

As ranking is by the page, not the site, the ideal way would be to add appropriate text for each video.

Starting a forum on the site, linking threads to related video pages (or something similar), could be good, but there are risks attched; I'd personally not even think about having an open access message board, even with nofollow and captchas, but maybe it's safe in your niche!

I would keep it all on one site to get maximum benefit (and no visitor confusion), whatever you decide.

[dailypress]

thanks for the reply.
I will probably add some text to the video page.
the other site (message board) is completely seperate and different from the entertainment site.

[300m]

Quadrille is right, you should add some text to the videos, maybe a description. I have a site with about 50 pages of embedded videos and they are included and rank for all kinds of various keywords. I think the key was giving a unique mini description for each video on each page.

1 paragraph is not a lot for each vid, and when you have 5 vids on each page, you have 5 paragraphs of targeted unique content.

That worked for me.

Good Luck :-)

[dailypress]

300m,
i have unique meta tags/descriptions and only 1 clip on each page! I dont know what to write other than a brief description (2-3 lines).

[Quadrille]

... And you'll do well if you are quick.

I'm by no means a 'big user'of vid sites, but I'm amazed that the few I've visited almost all have virtually no text at all.

And those that do usually have inappropriate text - every SE spammer vid, for example, has 'seo, matt cutts, google' plus one or two other keywords, even if Matt Cutts is not mentioned, and the Google reference is a 1999 spamming tip.

Seems to me the market is still wide open - But I could very easily be utterly wrong ;)

[dailypress]

Quadrille: Why do you say you wouldnt think of an open access message board? What risks does it entail?
Should I register a seperate hosting for this one particular Open message board website so just in case it got hacked it wouldnt harm my other websites?

[mattg3]

I have my narration on my 100 self made video pages .. But you know they should only be on Youtube and G video.. ;)

Joking aside, G can't handle text right how do you expect them to value video content ... although I can see a big bayesian filter fed on Stan and Ollie and Buster Keaton films coming up, somewhere in 2060.

[dailypress]

300M: would you be able to show me a few examples of similar websites that you know that the brief text/description has brought in Google referrals?

[dailypress]

mattg3: im not asking Google to search for Video Content but the actual, URL,Header,Meta Tags which consists of keywords.

[Quadrille]

Quadrille: Why do you say you wouldnt think of an open access message board? What risks does it entail?
Should I register a seperate hosting for this one particular Open message board website so just in case it got hacked it wouldnt harm my other websites?

There's a lot of hard work - very time consuming hard work - to make it work, plus the risk of abuse is very high (in most niches, not all).

Having on a separate site reduces spreading the risks ... but also reduces / removes any benefit to your others sites; from a people angle, it's just another site they may or may not visit, from an seo angle, it's just one link; and a very expensive one.

I'd make a 'risk assessment' of such a plan entirely independently of your main site; either it's safe and worth doing. Or not.

[mattg3]

mattg3: im not asking Google to search for Video Content but the actual, URL,Header,Meta Tags which consists of keywords.

It wasn't ment that serious.

I guess meta tags usw. are out unless you are 100% trusted. Then it's seen as context poor by the robot that sees lynx style webpages. So if you add a lot of text like me, they will include it.

[dailypress]

I have a form (empty box) below each video clip where I could either add the video HTML code for users to use for MySpace and their blogs and sites which would promote my site [though im still not sure if I have enough BW for that] OR I could add a brief description where hopefully Google can read and send me some referrals.
Which would you recommend? Which do you find more effective?

[dailypress]

when I do a google search on the keywords on a few pages on my site:
www.example.com/keyword1-keyword2.html
which keyword1 and 2 is also listed as h1 header and in the title and meta tags other websites which linked to me show up in the SERP!
That’s how frustrating it is!