Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Seeing movement on a couple of sites
Never lose faith in Google's engineers. They will for sure fix the TBPR. It might be more complicated operation than we think.
Meanwhile we should be careful on judging any site's situation or parameters based on the TBPR, IMO.
Your page with the highest PageRank
April: Data is not available at this time.
Just over a month ago, the PR value of all my pages dropped to PR1-PR2 save for my contact and home pages. The April update rolls around, and now my PR5 homepage is PR2, and all the internal pages jumped back up to PR3-PR4. All I really care about is the SERPs, but nobody is going to want to trade links with me if they immediately notice that my homepage is PR2 :(
My website got all internal links PR 4 from 3 and 2.
But few got -1 and -2 also... it looks like a mix change... some ups and some downs.
Regards,
Karamkshetra
Meanwhile we should be careful on judging any site's situation or parameters based on the TBPR, IMO.
At any time.
The public toolbar PR has been unreliable for quite some time now.
PR is continually updated, we just don't see it in the toolbar. It appears that Google have four (04) TBPR updates a year and we just went through Round 2, there are two more to go before 2008. ;)
For those of you who experienced an increase in PR, did that also equate into an increase in visitors?
Anyway we wont know how this affects the SERPS as major SERP updates tend to take place a month or so after PR alteration.
My main site was dropped for 30 days in March / April and finally we came back, this seems to be a yearly thing with google.
Checked this morning and we are gone again! for gods sake Big G what are you playing at?
Yours losing faith fast
LP
Checked this morning and we are gone again!
Do you mean your site de-indexed?
It hasn't been confirmed by Google.
However, changes in TBPR values have been noticed. Only Google knows whether its over or not.
Strange to get whacked so quickly in sucsession, normally only get stung once per year.
I think you might want to read some of the recent issues on the 950 thread: [webmasterworld.com...]
Thanks
nadia
1. In between the January PR update and now, Google made a significant change about how links are "weighted" - Several Google reps mentioned this, so it's not a guess. This shift in "weighting" could have involved a change of how, when and where PR gets passed.
2. The PR in this update is buggy (I know of a previous PR9 that fell to PR6 - that smells buggy to me)
The PR in this update is buggy (I know of a previous PR9 that fell to PR6 - that smells buggy to me)
Ditto, Even my experience is that PR update is not up to my expectation, atlease 80% sites have seen pr reduced by one, and few sites are reduced by two or three, all sites have goodlinks, not a single off topic link, though I understand over all link value has been reduced b'cos of different measures taken by google. Like reduced blog, forum link values, newly added nofollow tags, misunderstood paid links and so on (all possibilities based on my assumptions ;), I think some link data is missing or the cut off date for updation is arround feb 15 or before.
Hits have fallen, so there has been a visible effect.
Oak
Some other sites (weak ones, to be sure) dropped from 3 to 2
My other major site home page stayed the same (4)
Pls. keep in mind that all those TBPR figures could by anything in random at present. Its Google National Lottery for Good Causes, you may say :-)
Honestly, if our friends at the plex aren't going to fix the TBPR soon, they may be kind to do the one right thing to save the reputation of Google:
Disable the TBPR until its fixed
Is this the same site you have -30 penalty trouble with? My -30 site you know about also lost PR and backlinks in this update. In fact, the forum section even shows PR bar greyed out.
I'd be most interested to learn if there is a link between the two issues.
I have just noticed that our good friend Matt Cutts (who is on vacation) has been generous to answer today on his blog [mattcutts.com] few questions related to this thread.
As you see, Matt has confirmed a TBPR update a week or two ago.
- Yup, there was a toolbar pagerank update a week or two ago.- I think Adam said that he was willing to investigate reports of problems. I've passed on 1-2 sites to the toolbar folks to check into, but for the most part it was a relatively normal toolbar pagerank update.
......etc
Thanks, Matt. Much appreciated.
I have seen no change of reffered G traffic on the pages I have with the greybar, nor any big changes in the SERPS, so it may just be a loss of data for TBPR, and not real PR.
Back to Watching,
WW_Watcher
If it wasn't for a lot of complaints here I would have thought "relatively normal toolbar pagerank update" too.
I definetely have a different opinion, this update may be under control, without major bugs as they claim. But for sure in this update majority of the websites have lost 1 or 2 PR instead of expected growth, PR is not calculated anymore in the same manner, possibly some more ingrediants are added to the calculation.
#2: It's fairly obvious that Google is devaluing a lot of links, those that it thinks are spammy networks or paid links. This is why PR (for whatever it is worth) is generally falling. Loads of the spam links are being discounted! Great!
#1: Why are you all so obsessed with PR? Especially toolbar PR. It's like 2002 all over again.
SEOes as well as Savvy webmasters know the whole story about TBPR and PageRank.
However, its the clients and sites owners who give the TBPR and PageRank more importance than they deserve. So maybe intensive educations of clients and site owners might or might not help :-)
My home page rank, which has been a 6 for several years, dropped to 5. Should I be worried?
It is because I'm using text-link ads? Except for one advertiser that I've had on my site for over a year, the new text ads have been on my site for only about four months.
Thank you for any information. I'm a website owner, not a developer, so I don't follow a whole lot of this stuff.
