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Major Mystery: Google doesn't recognize sites that link to us

More than 150 sites link to us, but Google only sees 56.

         

atlwebguy

3:06 pm on Mar 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We've been trying to build our Link Popularity for two years. We've convinced about 150 sites to link to us. So we should have a great PageRank, but we don't. It's only a 5.

When I go to Google's Advanced Search page, it shows only 56 sites linking to us. We've submitted those sites to Google, just to be sure Googlebot visits them and sees that inbound link.

When we log in to Google Webmaster Tools we see that Google recognizes 680 inbound links. Now, a lot of these are just links from our site to our site, but a lot of sites show up in this report that don't show up when you use the Advanced Search.

Why the discrepancy? Why won't Google recognize all those inbound links?

Terabytes

3:14 pm on Mar 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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plain and simple....G does not show all inbound links using the link: command....

You're better off using Y to check inbound links...
Don't think that just because G doesn't list the other inbounds that they don't exist...

G knows about them...

And don't think that just because you have 150 links that it will raise your PR...it's not that easy...:)

[edited by: Terabytes at 3:15 pm (utc) on Mar. 23, 2007]

Philosopher

3:34 pm on Mar 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just as terabytes said.

Google intentionally doesn't show all the links when using the link: command. It has been this way for a few years now. It was generally done as a way to keep SEOs from reverse engineering their algo by scanning the inbound links for competitor sites etc.

Google recently started showing more links via the webmaster tools area so there is now a discrepancy between the two.

In general, if a link to your site is out there on a page that google can find, it knows about it whether it shows you or not.

Robert Charlton

5:49 am on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google intentionally doesn't show all the links when using the link: command.

Note this on Google's Webmaster Help Center [google.com]...

You can perform a Google search using the link: operator to find a sampling of links to any site.

It took a lot of screaming to get Google to add the word "sampling," but if you look through their site, you'll see that they still are sloppy about it in some places...

Advanced Google Search Operators
[google.com...]

The query [link:] will list webpages that have links to the specified webpage. For instance, [link:www.google.com] will list webpages that have links pointing to the Google homepage....

This is really vague. Google ought to get it together and perhaps even return a clarifying message on the link: serps page. Why continue to confuse people about this?

CainIV

6:10 am on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If their algos are worked as they were intended, one might wonder why they would still need to hide that information from webmasters :P

Lexur

6:52 am on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Most people still must to understand that Google does brilliant things and silly things.

The atlwebguy message shows how many people can't believe Google is giving away useless results with the link: command and, indirectly, how many users think the Google search results are the all available sites in the web ordered by quality.

hvacdirect

7:41 am on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Wow.

martinibuster

7:57 am on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

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>>>Google is giving away useless results with the link: command

Google does not provide tools for gaining insight into their algo. That includes the toolbar. ;)

It's pretty reasonable.

Lexur

10:34 am on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google does not provide tools for gaining insight into their algo

Call it as you want. Giving away an utility with tricky results is something that only a big branded company can do. If I give this results in my own search engine, people just will think I have a malfunctioning engine and they just will go away but it's Google, so people ask "What I'm doing wrong as I can't see all my link listed here?".

Miamacs

11:25 am on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

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With all the highly informational and factual comments made by Robert, Lexur, Cain, Martinibuster and others, I'd still like to make a point here... for I just know it ain't this easy to dismiss one's beliefs.

Not that pagerank should be monitored by webmasters at all.

It doesn't mean a thing anymore.
Apart of a quarterly report on how Google sees one's internal site structure and individual page weight.

But...

We've convinced about 150 sites to link to us. So we should have a great PageRank, but we don't. It's only a 5.

Unless you got inbounds from PR7, 8, 9, 10 pages...
150 sites, PR5 is... normal.