Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
This quote is from Matt Cutts blog:
I’m about blogged out for the day, and there are better places to discuss this stuff (WebmasterWorld, Search Engine Watch Forums, etc.). The best way to get people to process your feedback is to use the spam report form or the dissatisfied link, make sure that you include the keyword “bigdaddy” and try to be as specific and clear as you can.... I’d be delighted to get webspam feedback, but I’m most interested in hearing feedback about canonicalization, redirects, duplicate urls, www vs. non-www, and similar issues. Before you send in a report, please read my previous posts on url canonicalization, the inurl operator, and 302 redirects.
[mattcutts.com...]
[edited by: tedster at 11:45 pm (utc) on Jan. 4, 2006]
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Try this one - www.mindset.research.yahoo.com
I am seeing a jump in MSN traffic as well, but I've noticed that in the past month or so, MSN traffic seems to spike during the day and recede in the evening. Not sure why that is happening.
[uk.search.yahoo.com...]
Except for non bigdaddy related things. Unless, I am not finding it?
It's like a child who doesn't like people ignoring it. Every time we stop paying it attention, it has a tantrum and does a big stinky update.
In my opinion it needs a good spanking & if there's any left over ... so do I ;-)
[edited by: colin_h at 5:56 pm (utc) on Jan. 6, 2006]
Is this test DC just the algos, or is it a totally new dataset too? If so, it must be very old?
Best of luck when the dust settles
Col ;)
My God, I don't understand anymore what is happening :(
If a make a search on 66.249.93.104 (site:mysite.com) I am receiving 428 results and on 64.233.179.104 I am receiving 55.600!How is possible? Please advise.
Currently
66.249.93.104 is on
64.233.179.104 is off (default data)
What is the actual size? How do you see the size of your site on test DC before (more or less pages)? I've noticed that this problem is happening to some autogenerated directory sites where no. of listed pages is reduced dramatically.
I'm being de-indexed too. But I took that as a positive sign being as Google sends me virtually no traffic since September.
It didn't come out as they expected, they pulled it off a few times to try and figure it out, and now we have to see what they are going to do about it.
Right now Big Daddy is just a fairly large serps shakeup, with a small number of specific domains being interpreted more correctly but no across the board fixes applied.
It looks like it is doing this more often to pages that have an old cache date in the big daddy datacenter. It also looks like it is hitting the main category pages the hardest and those are the ones it most often comes back and hits a couple more times without the www (which gives them a 301).
It crawled real hard a week or so ago for a few days too and it crawled the hardest on pages that have been 404'd a long long time ago (more than a year and in some case a couple years ago).
Not sure if this has anything to do with fixing 301's, deciding which pages are most important to a site, or canonical issues, will let you know if anything changes on big daddy as a result of this crawl (updated cache's, more pages, less pages, more or less structured site ordering, addition of supplemental pages (that seems pretty well cleaned up for us on big daddy right now).
As far as ranking goes we don't seem to rank for anything above page 3 and most pages are well and truly buried. But for most of last year we couldn't even be found in the top 1000.
Anyone else seeing similar crawl patterns with mozilla bot?
anyone feels this is goign to stay?
seems that google has decided to roll on a daily basis now.
Non www url's are all supplemental in ache with a search site:thedomain.com -www
Showing ancient cache dates for most supps.
Was never 302 issues with this particular site.
My 02 cents
If you're running a Link Farm you are a happy camper. If you're running a clean site in my field (coupon sites) you may as well start promoting Yahoo and MSN full time, because Google has completely turned its back on you. Time to turn your back on them...
-- T
Right now Big Daddy is just a fairly large serps shakeup, with a small number of specific domains being interpreted more correctly but no across the board fixes applied.Remember that BigDaddy is not the update or change, but rather a datacenter that has had changes to the infrastructure which will in time allow more canonical improvements.
Is BigDaddy a 64-bit DC?
>>Big Daddy at this point is primarily a ranking update, regardless of what caused it.<<
WOW..just like that?
Would you be kind to elaborate more on that.
Thanks, steveb.
Good morning folks
We all chose a platform(s) to post our thoughts and speak our minds. My favorite choice is WebmasterWorld. Here I feel home among friends who agree and disagree with what I write freely. Mostly we reply to each other posts even when we disagree, because we care and do value and respect each other opinions. Its the good old two-ways communications, and thats what I like most.
Nowdays people start a one-way communication channels called blogs. Those blogs have no clear written TOS as we have here at WebmasterWorld. The blog owner can write what he/she wish and mostly don't reply to comments of visitors. Also the blog owner can delete comments at will. One-Way All The Way :-)
Therefore I'm posting here on these great WebmasterWorld forums a reply to one of Matt Cutts recent post on his blog. This way both Matt and other kind fellow members will have an opprtunity to communicate two-ways freely as long as the TOS are respected.
Matt wrote:
Feedback: Communication/Goodwill in 2006?
January 6, 2006 @ 11:17 am � Filed under Google/SEO
Google tries pretty hard to communicate with webmasters and site owners. We've got a blog, we speak at conferences, and employees answer questions on forums. But what else could Google do to improve communication this year?
The truth is Google has limited its two-ways Communications with webmasters recently. Now we are left mostly with Matt Cutts one-way communication channel where Matt talk and mostly webmasters listen.
Previously we had GoogleGuy to discuss with here at WebmasterWorld on two-ways communiaction basis. Though GG didn't answer all our questions, but we were talking to each other on equal basis under the same TOS terms. We had also threads for "Ask GoogleGuy" where we posted our questions and GG replied to most of them keeping in minds at the same time GG's obligations to Google.
Also we were less subjected to Matt's elastic empty terms as "In time" and "down the road". If it was said by GoogleGuy, we would have hammered him with questions and first stopped when he elaborated more :-)
Matt also wrote under his same post:
I think increased communication and more goodwill are often two sides of the same coin..
You said it Matt. And thats exactly what we are not geeting now from your or Google's sides. Neither two-ways quality honest open communiactions nor goodwill.
Hiding behind the fences of your blog might bring you and Google some PR. But never quality honest communications with the webmaster communities.
You wish to communicate with us, send us our kind fellow member GoogleGuy again to talk to us here on these great WebmasterWorld forums.
Thanks.
I don't know if the whole communication thing with Google isn't just an elaborate attempt at viral marketing. My experiences over the past 12 months have led to become fairly sceptical of anything coming out of their blogs & posts. I think they probably just want to make a fair for everyone search engine and they will try any method to stop the blackhat seo tricks that webmasters have attempted in the past. By keeping up discussions they have an excellent outlet for their mis-information campaigns.
But hey, I still believe in aliens & santa claus ;-)
Elaborate on what?
And this is a thread about feedback on the big daddy datacenter, not something to hijack because you don't like blogs.
Considering we are at a point in history with a historic amount of extremely helpful communication from Google it is downright strange to see Google actually criticized for the near avalance of helpful information that has been presented lately, especially this week. This thread is one way to discuss among ourselves and offer feedback about big daddy, and it is a reasonable thing to conclude that they have pulled it in part because of the "much ado about not much" feedback they have gotten here and elsewhere. Let's stay focused on that please, and start other threads about politics and foo elsewhere please.
