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adding 40K pages to the original 500

tired to wait for more traffic!

         

cyclinder

3:12 pm on Feb 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'am getting bored with the way my great site is treated by google,
yes it is growing but the speed is low - just hit the 4K per day after 3 years of online.

So I've decided to shake it and generate 40K more pages - added it in one day (this is 500MB of fresh content!) - will it make a difference finally?

at first few days google added about 400 pages and my traffic rocked from 4000 to 4100, so every 400 indexed pages adds 100 visitors not bad - but can i interpolate this? like when the whole thing got indexed i'll get 10K extra uniques - this would be good... yes...

And when finally they will add the whole new pages set to their database? again years to wait?

Site is online: 3.5 years
PR: 5-6
Has about 200-300 garbage in links, and 10 high quality ones(some high PR edu, gov sites)

Sorry for my English - it is not perfect I know...

M_Bison

8:38 am on Mar 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It always amazes me when people say "I've just added thousands of pages of super-duper-whiz-bang-100% unique-fresh as the morning content in one day".

The truth is that no one can just add 40K pages in one day. 40K pages would require years, if not decades of work, and you are adding it in a day.

tedster

9:38 am on Mar 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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While there are ways that dynamic sites can add that many new urls quickly, how Google reacts will ultimately depend on the value and uniquess of that new content. If an estabished 500,000 url domain adds 40,000 new urls in a day, Google would barely notice. But given the domain history you describe, I'd expect a very close inspection and a dose of the "sandbox effect".

If the content passes inspection by the algo, and if it gains quality backlinks at a natural pace, then the new addition could help you a lot. If you fall short of Google's meaures in some way, then you might be in for an even more difficult time.

pxc433

10:18 am on Mar 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I wish I could 'generate' thousands of new pages. Let me know the secret :-)

In our area (software technology) I pay writers for each 500-word article and (longer) white paper. The miss their deadlines, turn in work I don't like and reject, and make my life a pain. Sometimes though I like what I'm given.

However Google is nice to us - we rank well.

cyclinder

1:40 pm on Mar 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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thanks for all replies. :o)

well, of course pages were added automatically -
but they are no doorways no spam like.

From the date added there is about 4000 pages indexed, ie about 10% of the total amount.

I'am watching google closely - what can I say - the value of social algos grows more and more.

The top thing is: % of returned visitors

For me it is like the highest one for my niche, so google treats
my site great - i have so little links and so much traffic compared with others...

So no sandbox effect for me even with so little in. links.

nonni

12:08 am on Mar 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I just addded 900 pages to a website - it was database generated, but it required some analysis and contains unique, valuable information not found elsewhere.

As far as predicting how the search engines will treat it, or extrapolating to future chickens that might hatch and have other chickens, I'm not gonna do that. I think word of mouth will get it the most traffic for a while ... there are lots of people in this niche that will appreciate the content.

martingale

6:25 am on Mar 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Does adding crap like this actually have a long-term benefit? I say crap because 1000's upon 1000's of database/automatically generated pages have to be pretty much crap. As in, if you are honest, you will admit that what is on these pages is not really all that informative. It's just the same crap repeated over and over in different ways. They are low quality pages. A "high quality" page would be one that is hand written by a subject matter expert, with each 500 words probably taking a good hour to produce, or possible even much longer than that.

So, the question is, does creating 1000's of low quality pages actually help your ranking?

I would think that sooner or later, if it doesn't already, Google will find a way to penalize low quality content. When they do people with 1000's of pages of crap online will come in here and whine that Google has "unfairly" penalized their site.

futureX

11:04 am on Mar 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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at first few days google added about 400 pages and my traffic rocked from 4000 to 4100, so every 400 indexed pages adds 100 visitors not bad - but can i interpolate this? like when the whole thing got indexed i'll get 10K extra uniques - this would be good... yes...

I would say thats a terribly bad assumption, calculation & conclusion to make.

And how exactly does one 'generate' 40,000 pages?