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In the past 120 days Google appears to have given the Wiki "true authority" status. I'd have to say that 7 out of 10 searches includes a top position for the Wiki.
I've watched several terms where the Wiki has slowly moved up to that number one spot in the past 120 days.
I can see Google making an offer and turning the Wiki into its human edited authority on all things.
Not saying it's bad or good to have such an information loop in place, given the flood of pseudo-information (See FactCheck.org). This would move Google further into the media world. I can see GWiki taking on a much larger role in 'presenting the news', in real time, with many contributors, including a tie in to YouTube videos of news events, etc. Citizen journalism and news, evolved. (Who needs Fox? But, wait, up next . . . )
Interesting times. Next up: YouTube begets Googel News Division. Google Soap Opera Division. Google Reality Series Divison. Google Online Continuing Education Division.
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The founder of wiki has been thinking of spinning off his own search engine, so may be google wants to purchase it and have a non compete agreement signed.
It seems that for many keywords in many niches, Wikipedia owns many of the top spots.
I cant say Google is going to buy them, but I could beleive that they give them a high ranking because they do not sell anything and its driven by user contribution. Sometimes I think google is subtly telling searchers to do your homework and research the keyword from wikipedia and find out before you visit the other sites.
The sad part is that Wikipedia is still getting gamed even after the nofollws were started. I know that a lot of marketers use Wikipedia to promote and persuade. While i like wikipedia for educational things, as for money keywords many of times you are getting a biased opinion and thats what it is turning in to.
The thing with Wiki is Google would be in an awkward situation if one of its competitors bought it. I mean, it gives all this authority to Wiki, but what if Yahoo or MSN owned it and monetized it? They'd be sending all this traffic and money to their coffers.
Although there are legal issues and risks with Wiki, they are nothing compared to those at YouTube. Most content is not copyrighted and most visitors to Wiki are not looking for copyrighted work. I recall only one incident wrt Wiki abuse in the last two years or so.
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About the only thing that has any potential monetary value would be the domain name and the wiki trademark, since the content of wikipedia is entirely free anyway.
What I mean is - is anyone going to "buy out" the Free Software Foundation, or Mozilla. Or what about somebody "buying out" Firefox?
I'm not sure what the U.S. laws are , but I'm pretty sure you can't buy out a non-profit charity.
And I quote:
We are not a commercial product. We provide free knowledge (… or content… or educational content…) for everyone. Our goal is not to make money. Our purpose is to help humanity be more informed, knowledgeable. Not only are we confused with commercial companies sometimes, but big charitable organizations do not recognize us as a charity, which greatly limit the support we might get from them. I would consider as a goal for year 2007, to change this.
Florence Nibart-Devouard
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do not recognize us as a charity, which greatly limit the support we might get from them. I would consider as a goal for year 2007
I am not sure if it is a charity to destroy people's jobs. The content was there before on the internet. It's free in your local library.
The whole thing is a sensible as offering free sand. Now everyone needs to clone wikipedia to draw even and add their own content. I've seen about 20 sites that closed their own content and replaced it WP with the comment it would be the consequent thing to do. And it probably is.
Wikipedia and Google are the source of this increasing content devaluation ..
And even worse after they let that site rise, the Wikimedia Foundation wants to offer a free serach engine... and Google still lists them... sawing away on the branch they sit on ...
So free content and free search engine.. and there are still webmasters that support this socialist adventure.. silly..
WP is on a mission to destroy most people's work here .. some kind of charity. Maybe some people will wake finally up when we have Wikitravel Wikishop whatever.