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What else should be done for increasing Google traffic?



9:42 pm on Nov 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good Afernoon all!

As posted in this topic [webmasterworld.com], I just passed the $100 mark for the first time since I started Adsense.

I wanted to share with those about what I have done, and I welcome any ideas that may come of this discussion, not so much related to Adsense, but SEO in general

I have a site, registered January 2006. It's a good name (catchy), no hypens, not spammy, no .biz or info. just a straight .com. No keywords are in the domain name. I am showing a TBPR of 2 from the DC which I have found to be the most accurate and up to date. It has been registered for a year. This may change after next paycheck if seen as an issue.

I have roughly 220 pages of content. All of it except for 50 pages written by me. Those 50 pages were contributed by users. I have a forum, as well as a blog.

At one point, I had to delete the forum since it was affected by a phpbb bug that allowed posting without logging in. The downside of that is that there are now around 100 pages that are 404 in google sitemaps. A new forum is in place, but locked since I have to rebuild the structure.

Since I joined WebmasterWorld, I have done the following:
redirected example.com to www.example.com
redirected www.example.com/index.htm to www.example.com
Made sure that all pages have unique Title tags and Unique Meta keyword and descpription tags.
Added more content.
Created some custom PHP forms that I think is what seperates my site from others in my niche, as well as provide much more information then any of the other sites. Generally their sites are about 80-90 pages. The additional pages on my site are value added content, they do contribute to the site as a whole.
I also have done my best to follow Brets recommendations for a successful site in 12 months here [webmasterworld.com].
I have come to the conclusion that my site is not in the google "sandbox" as it is also not showing up on yahoo or msn for the main keyword phrase. I do get listed in the top 10 for certain long tail searches.

During various times through out the year, the search "Keyword phrase" has yielded 70 million results, 80 million results and now 10 million results.
My site did not rank in the first 1000 for any of those data pushes. When I do a allintitle search, my site is about 400 out of 410,000 on google.

When I do a site:www.example.com, I get results, anything after result # 40 is supplemental up to #363

When I do a search for my domain name example I am number one.
Google shows 4 back links, 2 are my own site, one is a article submission site, and the 4th is not shown. Yahoo shows roughly 550, MSN shows about 120.

I have written a couple of articles based on the content of my site. The articles are not close enough to the site content to cause a possible duplicate filter flag, ecxcept for within the article sumbission sites themselves. When I do a google search for those articles by title I get 600 results.

I signed up for a link exchange, but did not have my site posted on anyone else's or put anyone's on mine.

With this information provided, what else can I do to get good placement in the serps. I know alot of it is Inbound links, but at that point I am concenred about the quality of the inbound links. I need for sites with high PR ranking to me, but unfortunately, it seems that in my niche, its pretty competitive and I doubt they will link to me. The alternative is to have editorial articles from msnbc or cnn or yahoo posting a link to my site, but in order for that to happen realitly, they need to know about the site. so which came first the chicken or the egg?


10:14 pm on Nov 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Do you have a local newspaper with an online version?

You could try sending them a press release with info about your site. This is free, and if they do a story on you, or just use your release as-is, it will give you a nice backlink. Emphasize that you're a local. :-)

You could also use PRWeb, but unless your press release really stands out, you won't get many links.

I don't know the topic of your site, but if you mention manufacturers, which you probably do if you're using AdSense, try sending an email to their PR or marketing departments, mentioning your site, and requesting a review and link.

Oliver Henniges

10:44 pm on Nov 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A few years ago it helped to apply as a DMOZ editor for a while. You get a nice overview on your topic-niche, perhaps some interesting contacts, brilliant insights into the way knowlegde might be organized, structured and discussed, and perhaps you may be allowed to provide your own site with one of the most important backlinks at all.

This isn't against the TOS, is it?
This isn't outdated today, is it?


10:50 pm on Nov 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I like the idea about sending to local newspaper. I tried that about 4 months ago, no respone.. sigh..heeh

As far as being a DMOZ editor, I did apply but was rejected So I am continueing to wait, 8 months already, for DMOZ to add my site to the catagory.


12:02 am on Nov 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, editing has been down for DMOZ editors for quite some time. Not a good thing when 1000's are waiting in que.


12:20 am on Nov 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I found out where to submit a press release to the local paper, I can get that done tonight. I did look at PRWeb, something that I think I can handle as well.
I have links back from Google Base, Technorati, 2 articles distributed by <an article distribution service>. Posts in blogs that have TBPR of 7. I also have google alerts set up, I get an email everyday with 1-3 links reported found by google. I just have to say that I'm banging my head against the ceiling and getting demotivated.

hehe, sorry about that tedster

[edited by: tedster at 12:40 am (utc) on Nov. 28, 2006]


1:59 am on Nov 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You say you are using phpbb. I do too, you may want to do a search on "phpbb seo" there is a mod out there that optimizes it, removes any possiblity of dup pages being indexed, and shores up security.


3:56 pm on Nov 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A question that I have been curious about:

I have lots of supplemental results for my site. Could that affect the site being listed higher in the SERPS for my main keyword phrase on my home page that is not supplemental? If the supplemental issue is resolved, could my home page rank higher as a result of it?


2:38 am on Dec 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< this post was moved here from another location >

I have had some movement in the SERPS as a result of some changes. Most noticebly is that I was up to 850 out of 17 million, but have since dropped out again, but yet there is hope. As for yahoo, I have made it to 250 out of 25 million.

What I did recently was the title and description changes, making them unique per page. As a result, some of the pages from site:www.example.com have disappeared, presumeably to be recached with the updated information.

I bring all of this up, because of the highly competitive sector that I am in. I think that the positions I have gained are great, seeing as the site is only 11 months old, and there are alot of authority sites out there.

I have cataloged everything I have done, including the redirect from example.com to www.example.com
as well as redirecting index.htm to /

I have done article submissions, to build up some backlinks, and have added unique content as often as possible. The website's a 250 page site, all created by me, almost every word of content. Except for the 60 pages provided by the users.

I have established a blog, forum, make use of php for forms, have set up the robots.txt to keep the undesireables out as well as making use of a greate htaccess file found here on WebmasterWorld.

In 2 weeks, the domain will be purchased for another 2 years, as it was only bought for one year initially.

I'm posting this now, as I have turned off all my PPC and will be relying soully? on natural search results.

I want to thank everyone here at WebmasterWorld, for helping me get a glimpse of better times to come.
I don't ever expect to be #1 for the site, but being on the first page, or number 11 will do just fine, for the amount of times the niche is searched for.

To anyone new here. Keep your ears open, you are amongst the webs finest.

[edited by: tedster at 3:11 am (utc) on Dec. 28, 2006]


11:10 am on Dec 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Don't think in purely internet terms. A web based business needs still needs to be pushed through off-line channels. I know of more than one webmaster who says that the best source of paying traffic comes from handing out business cards at conferences.


3:42 pm on Dec 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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And it just occurred to me this morning, with no longer paying for PPC campaigns, I can use that money to subscribe to WebmasterWorld which would be just as beneficial. :)

Do I have anything on my nose?


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