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Top rankings came back - and we changed nothing



9:40 am on Nov 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We have regained old top positions overnight that were lost in June and that had only recovered for some weeks in August.

Absolutely ZERO changes have been made to the rich content site since we had tanked completely.

[edited by: tedster at 8:15 pm (utc) on Nov. 17, 2006]

vikram lashkari

11:46 am on Nov 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hi friends,
Donot know what is going on with google , we were having average increase of 20% visitors a day last week as compare to last month visit and this week it has gone down -25% visitors a day as compare to last month.

Did anyone know what google is doing. We have not done any change at all , Apart from adding X'mas images and banners which is just replace of images and adding certain images nothing else..

Please if anyone can confirm what is going on.



4:03 pm on Nov 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just disappeared from the front page on a competitive keyword to the omitted results. There is a 20 million result difference in the datacenters from the old results to the new. No major changes were made on my site. Google seems to hit me every time with their updates. I have always popped back up, but I guess we will see what happens this time. Google's chaotic updates every other month got old a long time ago. I am sure Google's users love the fluctuation too.



4:09 pm on Nov 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well my site that took a big hit last year has regained most of it's top positions.
I wonder if this is a holiday update or just another false data push that will not last very long.


6:12 pm on Nov 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Had a huge jump in traffic from google on 13th, which lasted about 2 1/2 days. Now traffic has pretty much STOPPED. Really just a trickle of visitors today - less than 50 so far, last few days have seen 700 - 1000/day.

Not coming up in SERPs for terms that were top 3 the last few days.

This gets tiring...

vikram lashkari

8:13 am on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hi guys,
Please any senior member or moderators confirm about the fact of what is going on with google. We are just loosing everything each day. I am worried. IF it is temporary than i won't mind lossing sales for short period but if google has done something which they themselves not knowing that the genuine website r getting hurt then plz let them know that we the sincere webmaster are suffering.



11:04 am on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm seeing big changes and some happy clients, lets hope it sticks!


1:54 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google's chaotic updates every other month got old a long time ago

Up and down... it's ridicolous. It now happens every week.


8:33 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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if you just read this thread carefully you see that your question is answered.


10:31 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

What you are describing sounds like an algos update etc..

Have you ever thought about that ;-)


10:52 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi rden17
I am experiencing the same freaking result as you are. Did u change anything recently?



9:04 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hello everyone,

I'm seeing the same fluctuation on my largest site (traffic / page number-wise).

Got hit hard early summer, steady and impressive growth from mid August, hit very hard again around Sept. 30th and then a very large increase (nearly doubled) on Thursday and then backed up by some steady growth yesterday.

FYI this is a new site, launched in Feb. Domain's been online since app. Aug `05.

My old "authority" high PR (7+) sites aren't being hit in this up and down way.

I'm sure there are big losers this week because for me the pattern seems clear at the moment for all non-authority sites. It's almost as if we're split into two groups and as these "data updates/flushes,whatever" happen one group wins, the other loses. It's a see-saw motion that only seems to keep half of us happy at best.

I think the only way out of this is to stay online, build those links and to establish yourself as a worthy site.

I'm sure that people with old authority sites will now pipe up and say that they've also been hit hard this week :)

The other odd thing, that no one else seems to have mentioned or seen has been the way my PR on my homepage has been changing from 4/5 and back again almost constantly since the start of October. Backlinks also fluctuate at will between 593 (for sure too low) and 26k (much too high) whereas I feel the "real" figures more like 4k. Odd.



9:28 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am becoming more convinced daily from seeing things the original poster and others have mentioned that Google search and many of its programs such as Adwords are riddled with bugs. In fact Google has corrected some for me in Adwords. IMO with Google's tracking abilities I'm beginning to wonder if they don't control many sites profits levels more than some would imagine.

I remember when I got business from over 200 search engines. Google's market dominance just doesn't seem good for the vast majority.

Right Reading

9:49 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This has been going on for a long time. It's looking like Google prefers unstable results. I guess they don't want anyone to get too comfortable?

[edited by: Right_Reading at 9:50 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2006]


10:51 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ok, so I'm not crazy then! This has happened to me twice now. The first time was about 6 weeks ago and then two days ago. I have a half-day or so huge surge in traffic followed by a complete crash. I have worked all year long to rebuild my site and take care of dupe content issues and it seems like it hasn't helped a thing.


11:00 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm guessing it was a monthly data push. And yes, one of my sites was affected by it.


6:55 pm on Nov 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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there's one thing I noticed:

let's take a keyword "Breast Cancer: What Women Should Know" (with ")

(one site which took hit)

SERP shows obgynhealth.net/womens-health/breast-cancer.html

instead of


I'm not sure why SERP don't show the most relevant listings right now.


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